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9 hours ago, MisterSwig said:

on Trump Derangement Syndrome

Once the emotions die down we may be able to determine if the "desperate emotions" (on both sides) had any validity.

Will the negative feelings toward Trump or Biden correspond to what would have happened. Time will tell.

It's too early to determine because too much emotional intensity right now blinds a person to the truth.

 

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7 hours ago, Easy Truth said:

It's too early to determine because too much emotional intensity right now blinds a person to the truth.

This might be literally true. If our crow epistemology allows only so much information to be in focal awareness, then an emotional reaction will push out some awareness of reality and make it harder to think rationally about what's really going on in the world.

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I think you'll have to finish off the video in writing because you will have to 

1. Identify "who should vote"

2. Identify how you will identify them

You touched on it, but it still is left as a complaint i.e. "voting by mail is too problematic".

One thing you have to take into consideration is that the (2020) voting that brought in a Democrat President also brought in a Republican Congress so one can make the argument that it worked. If it was rigged, then one would expect both president and congress to go in one direction since the same system of voting was used in both cases.

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Easy Truth, I actually cut about ten minutes of us discussing that stuff, but my performance didn't meet a minimum standard for publication. It was a rather impromptu/brainstormy discussion and I need more time to think about the details and present a decent case for raising the requirements of voting and verifying eligible voters. My general view is that the voting age needs to be higher and voting by mail needs to be severely limited.

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13 hours ago, tadmjones said:

Voter fraud isn’t nearly as detrimental to the institutions of a republic as is counter fraud.

Is there much counter fraud? I hear about counting "glitches" but not fraud. And I believe that viral video of the woman filling in ballots was showing the duplication process for unreadable ballots. So we need to be careful about judging these videos. Just like with the George Floyd video, just because you see something happening with your own eyes doesn't mean you understand what's happening.

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The precinct 'bosses' , those that fill the staff positions at canvassing and counting facilities  are reliably 'above board' , and or not in a position to manipulate tallies ?

Daley did nothing for JFK? LBJ had no sway in TX?

Cheating is endemic 'everybody' does it, it rarely gets called because those who rely on it need it later too. Only a brash , no holds barred type would even think of using it as leverage in a negotiation.

Do you think we need systems of voter verification in order to stop individual voters from casting improper ballots? I think the political class engineers systems in order to prioritize the ability to manipulate voter counts in manner that would be very hard to prove legalistically. But then again I'm cynical and jaded.

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