Economic Freedom Posted May 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2022 35 minutes ago, KyaryPamyu said: Two gasses, oxygen and hydrogen, change their status into a liquid when combined. A liquid has properties which neither of its constitutive parts have. This might shed light on that seemingly incomprehesible gap. Any legitimate discovery - philosophical or scientific - is made through the same method: induction. >Two gasses, oxygen and hydrogen, change their status into a liquid when combined. You're wrong on a number of assumptions. 1) merely mixing hydrogen gas and oxygen gas together in a room won't form anything. You'll have free-floating hydrogen gas and free-floating oxygen gas. Big deal. 2) When you provide an adequate heat source to cause a reaction between hydrogen gas and oxygen gas to form water, the water doesn't have any properties that cannot be explained by means of the properties of its constituent parts. Water is pretty much the sum of its constituent parts. 3) Hydrogen gas and oxygen gas are governed by the overarching 4 Laws of Thermodynamics (the 0th Law, the 1st Law, the 2nd Law (i.e., entropy), and the 3rd Law. The resultant combination -- water -- is itself governed by the 4 overarching Laws of Thermodynamics. Not so with life. The difference between "living" and "non-living" doesn't reside in chemical elements under the rule of the 4 Laws of Thermodynamics. The difference between "living" and "non-living" resides in the fact that the former is made possible by a system of coded-chemistry, while the latter is not. Evidence? Chemically analyze a living person on his death bed, and then perform the same chemical analysis just after he dies. Same chemicals. Yet the first entity was alive and the second one was not. Obviously, the difference is not simply chemistry. The genetic code is 1) universal (all living things that we know about have the same coded-chemistry, differing only in details); and 2) a true code, no different in structure from any other code, such as Morse Code and ASCII. There is no plausible way to get from "chemicals under the rule of only thermodynamic considerations" to "chemicals that are *not only* under the rule of thermodynamic considerations but that also obey an arbitrary system of coded signals between structures. By "arbitrary", I mean that the genetic code itself cannot be derived as necessarily having been formed by the nature of the chemicals involved in life (water, salt, phosphorous, magnesium, ribose, etc.). Similarly, Morse Code is an arbitrary code invented by the mind of Samuel Morse; the assignation of symbols to the English alphabet (e.g., "..." is assigned to the letter "S"; "---" is assigned to the letter "O"; etc.) was strictly a matter of arbitrary choice by Mr. Morse, and cannot be derived from the chemical composition of pencil lead on paper, or the sound-wave properties of a telegraph device. Codes -- including the genetic code -- are always products of mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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