About the Russian aggression of Ukraine

[Doug Morris]

20 hours ago, whYNOT said:

Which "first time!"?

2014, when he seized Crimea.

 

[AlexL]

YouTube channel "1420", Daniil Orain, micro-interviews, April 2023, in Moscow. 

Question: "Should we change presidents once in a while?"

 

[Jon Letendre]

Democrat Presidential candidate RFK, Jr:

”There are 14,000 Ukrainian civilians who have died, but 300,000 troops. Russians are killing Ukrainians at a seven-to-one, eight-to one-ratio. They cannot sustain this. Well, what we're being told about this war is just not true.”

[AlexL]

4 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

Democrat Presidential candidate RFK, Jr:

”There are 14,000 Ukrainian civilians who have died, but 300,000 troops. Russians are killing Ukrainians at a seven-to-one, eight-to one-ratio. They cannot sustain this. Well, what we're being told about this war is just not true.”

Yes, RFK Jr. said that indeed, a lot of publications quoted him.

But what are YOU trying to suggest by quoting RFK Jr. here? That his numbers ARE real? That they are NOT real? 

Edited April 29 by AlexL

[whYNOT]

On 4/28/2023 at 9:26 PM, Doug Morris said:

2014, when he seized Crimea.

 

Yes. That too had its antecedence in the Maidan and the overthrow of government and subsequent unrest/civil war.

The chances of Russia in those circumstances holding control of Crimea-Sebastopol with a new regime in place, now with Ukraine within Nato and EU, were zero. That would be a prized achievement for the West with Crimea ceded by Kyiv to the West: their Navies taking over the traditional base in control of the Black Sea and shipping routes, so cutting off Russia's access--towards the long term goal, isolating and weakening Russia. It must be supposed Putin saw all that coming and moved in swiftly to obviate a (Russian) disaster. I think that action was pragmatic, helped by a great majority of Crimeans in favor of Russian secession. (Still are, whatever the msm suggests). Less territorially pragmatic, and I maintain more humanitarian, was the annexation/secession of the Eastern oblasts - the added plus, the 'land corridor' now opened. It seems to me the western alliance was furious that Putin got in first. It's Crimea they wanted, today even more.

With later events, Nato's military plans and the primary purpose of strengthening the UAF would have been, in early 2022, the taking by force of the Donbass - and Crimea.

Predictably, Putin could not have sat back and allowed this, so we'd be back where we started, with conflict. That one could hypothetically have been a declared war, not a limited, SMO invasion.

Edited April 30 by whYNOT

[whYNOT]

On 4/28/2023 at 11:29 PM, AlexL said:

YouTube channel "1420", Daniil Orain, micro-interviews, April 2023, in Moscow. 

Question: "Should we change presidents once in a while?"

 

Now these ARE good interviews. Same old same old, wherever you look in western societies equally, people for traditionalism v. change, or vice-versa. 'New' values and 'old' values. Conservatism and (neo)-liberalism, sides of the same coin that will both repress freedoms, e.g. free speech.

There are positive signs from these Russian youth who might discover that only individual rights and limited government answer all their concerns.

These divergent opinions show their growth pains. Their country has just the other day emerged from despotism, next a bad period under the weak Yeltsin, and therefore ought not be externally and artificially interfered with by regime overthrow and subsequent political upheavals and conflict. As many outside apparently wish. For now, maybe achieving stability is best.

Edited April 30 by whYNOT

[AlexL]

YouTube channel "1420", Daniil Orain, micro-interviews, April 2023, in Moscow. 

Question: "How is our war with NATO going?"

 

[Dupin]

The war is going pretty well for Russia:

Russia Retaliates for Ukraine’s Attack on Sevastopol

[AlexL]

On 4/29/2023 at 11:17 PM, AlexL said:

On 4/29/2023 at 7:24 PM, Jon Letendre said:

Democrat Presidential candidate RFK, Jr:

”There are 14,000 Ukrainian civilians who have died, but 300,000 troops. Russians are killing Ukrainians at a seven-to-one, eight-to one-ratio. They cannot sustain this. Well, what we're being told about this war is just not true.”

Yes, RFK Jr. said that indeed, a lot of publications quoted him.

But what are YOU trying to suggest by quoting RFK Jr. here? That his numbers ARE real? That they are NOT real? 

No comment, @Jon Letendre ?

[AlexL]

1 hour ago, Dupin said:

The war is going pretty well for Russia:

Russia Retaliates for Ukraine’s Attack on Sevastopol

Could you please explain?

[whYNOT]

Short memories people have, and how msm can spin on a dime for 'expediency'. Their names reel off: Reuters, BBC, CNN...These same Ukraine neo-Nazis who in 2014 were condemned widely by them, are now celebrated in Congress/Parliament/etc.. You are promoting Putin's propaganda to point out this glaring lapse. Some are asking if a lot of Westerners recently became 'nazified' by association/conviction.

https://open.substack.com/pub/askeptic/p/the-msms-ukraine-amnesia?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

 

 

Edited May 5 by whYNOT

[Dupin]

AlexL,

I must rely on reputable commentators who are able to sort through the news lies, and in my considered opinion such are  Col. Douglas Macgregor (ret.),  John Mearsheimer, Ray McGovern,  and  Seymour Hersh.

In the first third of Macgregor’s latest (May 3) interview he talks about the war and says the Ukraine battle losses are ten times those of Russia:
A massive Russian offensive is terminating Ukraine
 

 

 

 

[AlexL]

OK, and how did you establish that Col. Douglas Macgregor (ret.), John Mearsheimer, Ray McGovern,  and  Seymour Hersh are reliable, that is that you can trust their opinions without doing every time your own research??

Is it because you have established that their facts are right, or is it because you simply like their conclusions?

PS: some illustrious names are missing, like William Scott Ritter, John Mark Dougan and other darlings of the Russia's governmental media...

For example, in the official Russia's news today: RT на русском, Бывший разведчик США Риттер [Ritter] считает, что Россия нанесёт поражение ВСУ к началу осени

Edited May 5 by AlexL

[Dupin]

I believe the people I mentioned are reputable for the usual reasons – and AlexL knows full well what those reasons are:  Their credentials, their past, their manner, their logical presentation, is what they say consistent with itself, is what they say consistent with what I know, etc.  All this is obvious.

AlexL is engaging in  “How do you know that you know?” ==> “You can’t know anything.” ==> “You are wrong.” baloney.

He writes: “PS: some illustrious names are missing, like William Scott Ritter, John Mark Dougan and other darlings of the Russia’s governmental media...”  – what a nasty piece of work is this AlexL.

 

[AlexL]

14 hours ago, Dupin said:

I believe the people I mentioned are reputable for the usual reasons – and AlexL knows full well what those reasons are:  Their credentials, their past, their manner, their logical presentation, is what they say consistent with itself, is what they say consistent with what I know, etc.  All this is obvious.

Yes, the reasons you listed (plus person's reliance on facts and on shared values) do indeed characterize a person's reputability. For exactly these reasons those persons are not reputable. For some this is my own observation. For all - the corresponding Wiki pages (cross-checked with references and the "Talk" pages) show what unsavory characters they are.

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AlexL is engaging in  “How do you know that you know?” ==> “You can’t know anything.” ==> “You are wrong.” baloney.

No, AlexL is not at all engaged in this. You seem to have the need for straw-manning; better leave my argument unanswered, it would have been less shameful. 

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He writes: “PS: some illustrious names are missing, like William Scott Ritter, John Mark Dougan and other darlings of the Russia’s governmental media...”  – what a nasty piece of work is this AlexL.

Unfortunately for you, what I wrote is the exact truth, an inconvenient one, it seems....

PS: you did not answer an older question of mine - here. Or you were simply trolling?

[whYNOT]

Whose version of events are you going to believe?

https://youtu.be/BE2ddbIxavE

Or

https://youtu.be/DKwJ_7-QPUs

More importantly, who could have averted a war - and who invited one and, presently, would let it escalate out of control?

 

 

[AlexL]

Life in Russia: 1.5 Years Later, by Setarko, Russia, 27 May 2023

[AlexL]

Life in Russia: 1.5 Years Later, by Setarko, Russia, 27 May 2023

"it's been almost 1.5 years since life in Russia changed dramatically. But today I would like to talk not about the life and prosperity (or decline) of the country, but about the lives of ordinary people in it. There are two points of view. According to the first, people in Russia have lost access to hundreds of services and services, people are leaving the country by the millions, and it is becoming increasingly difficult to survive. According to the other, the country has only benefited from the special military operation that was launched, the people have rallied, import substitution is in full swing, and the next few years will be OUR years. Well, let me, as a really average resident of Russia, try to describe what has really changed in our lives during this time."

 

Edited May 27 by AlexL