Reblogged:Election Kooks Cooked

[Gus Van Horn blog]

If the Republicans have any sense -- a huge if, if rumors about them seriously considering Donald Trump for Speaker of the House are true -- they will quit running in elections on the premise that the elections are "rigged."

In an election many mainstream commentators on both sides are having difficulty interpreting, one consistently good result has emerged:

Image by Tom Radetzki, via Unsplash, license.

Voters in the six major battlegrounds where Donald Trump tried to reverse his defeat in 2020 rejected election-denying candidates seeking to control their states’ election systems this year, a resounding signal that Americans have grown weary of the former president’s unfounded claims of widespread fraud.

Candidates for secretary of state in Michigan, Arizona and Nevada who had echoed Trump’s false accusations lost their contests on Tuesday, with the latter race called Saturday night. A fourth candidate never made it out of his May primary in Georgia. In Pennsylvania, one of the nation’s most prominent election deniers lost his bid for governor, a job that would have given him the power to appoint the secretary of state. And in Wisconsin, an election-denying contender’s loss in the governor’s race effectively blocked a move to put election administration under partisan control.

Trump-allied Republicans mounted a concerted push this year to win a range of state and federal offices, including the once obscure office of secretary of state, which in many instances is a state’s top election official. [links omitted, bold added]

Excellent, if a bit misinterpreted: People who buy conspiracy theories practically never tire of them: The actual, news is that, as much as Trump panders to the type, (a) there aren't enough of them to win a general election, (b) normal people who don't want such people in office will show up to keep them out, or (c) some combination of both.

Most of us can breathe a big sigh of relief in the short term. In the long term, perhaps we can harbor hope that Republicans will quit screwing themselves by following Trump's lead on this manufactured issue -- and quit screwing those of us who want a serious alternative to the Democrats.

Memo to All Partisan Pundits: Just because "your guy" won doesn't mean we like him or that he necessarily deserved to win.

-- CAV

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[tadmjones]

So where the deniers won their primaries they also lost their generals and that proves , what exactly ?

[Jon Letendre]

The kooks are those who believe that the people voted for the party in power destroying their lives.

[tadmjones]

Was Carter for the ERA ?

[Doug Morris]

8 hours ago, tadmjones said:

So where the deniers won their primaries they also lost their generals and that proves , what exactly ?

That there are still a lot of people who blindly follow Trump and vote in Republican primaries, but not enough for Trump's stolen election nonsense to fly in the general election.

 

[Doug Morris]

5 hours ago, Jon Letendre said:

The kooks are those who believe that the people voted for the party in power destroying their lives.

Where the economy was the main issue, Republicans did well.  Where abortion or the stolen-election lie was the main issue, Democrats did well.  All three can be interpreted as people voting for freedom, although perhaps we should be cautious in drawing conclusions about what is in the minds of most voters.

 

[necrovore]

There's a lot of speculation about why the election went the way it did, but one thing I don't understand is this: prior to the election they did a lot of polls and used them not only to guess who was going to win, but why. (This is why they ask voters what the most important issue is to them, and questions like that.)

But they don't do polls after the election. They just seem to speculate and rationalize.

Why? Why don't they ask people such questions as, did you actually vote, and if so, whom did you vote for -- and why?

If you want to know what people were actually thinking when they voted, that seems to be the simplest way...

I don't think people would lie to pollsters now, because the election is already over. Also, since we're asking about the past, people won't be changing their minds as much. (Of course, the people being polled would probably still want to be anonymous.)

But maybe the reason they don't do polls after the election is that it would raise some eyebrows if the percentage of people who say they voted a certain way didn't match up with the way the election actually came out.

Hmmm.