aliambere Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 Hey guys........ I have been delving into Objectivist philosophy recently, and I find myself particularly intrigued by the interplay between metaphysics and epistemology as presented by Ayn Rand. One question that keeps resurfacing for me is how Objectivism delineates the nature of knowledge and its relationship to reality. Rand emphasizes that existence exists and that consciousness is the faculty of perceiving that existence. However, I wonder how this principle translates into our understanding of knowledge acquisition. Specifically, I am curious about how we can reconcile the idea that knowledge is a process of integration based on sensory experience with the potential for abstract concepts that may not have direct empirical correlates. For instance, how does one navigate the realm of abstract ideas such as justice or freedom, which seem to transcend concrete sensory data yet are still vital to our understanding of reality? I also check this: https://forum.objectivismonline.com/index.php?/topic/2615-knowledge-as-an-end-in-itself-an-ultimate-goallooker But I have not found any solution. Could anyone guide me about this? I would love to hear your thoughts on this matter and any recommended readings that could further illuminate these concepts. Thank you for your time, and I look forward to engaging in this discussion! Respected community member! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DavidOdden Posted September 27 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 27 By way of context, we get a considerable number of people trolling the forum for some reason, indeed a plague. See this comment. Your question is way more than 3 sd’s from the mean, for a n00b, yet under-informed given the informed snippets that you include. The obvious inference to draw is that this is the product of tinkering with an AI interface, i.e. “Write me an essay on X”. Perhaps you are Australian. On the third hand the expression “I also check this” (which appears here as well) is not grammatical. One thing that AI responses do is give grammatical responses. So perhaps this is a manually edited AI response, or perhaps from a new non-English AI response. Now moving to the content part. Read Introduction of Objectivis Epistemology for the detailed account. Your concern with “direct” empirical correlates is misplaced. What is required is not that one be able to directly perceive the measurements defining a concept, instead, all knowledge reduces to perception. Knowledge is hierarchical, what is required is simply that there be a logical chain that reduces any proposition or concept to the axiomatic (perception). Also, drop the interest in “sensory experience”, we start with perception. A human can respond intelligently to this, showing signs of comprehension, an AI will just generate a string of vacuous words. I’ll be interested in your response. EC, SpookyKitty, necrovore and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpookyKitty Posted September 27 Report Share Posted September 27 @aliembere 14 hours ago, aliambere said: Hey guys........ I have been delving into Objectivist philosophy recently, and I find myself particularly intrigued by the interplay between metaphysics and epistemology as presented by Ayn Rand. One question that keeps resurfacing for me is how Objectivism delineates the nature of knowledge and its relationship to reality. Rand emphasizes that existence exists and that consciousness is the faculty of perceiving that existence. However, I wonder how this principle translates into our understanding of knowledge acquisition. Specifically, I am curious about how we can reconcile the idea that knowledge is a process of integration based on sensory experience with the potential for abstract concepts that may not have direct empirical correlates. For instance, how does one navigate the realm of abstract ideas such as justice or freedom, which seem to transcend concrete sensory data yet are still vital to our understanding of reality? I also check this: https://forum.objectivismonline.com/index.php?/topic/2615-knowledge-as-an-end-in-itself-an-ultimate-goallooker But I have not found any solution. Could anyone guide me about this? I would love to hear your thoughts on this matter and any recommended readings that could further illuminate these concepts. Thank you for your time, and I look forward to engaging in this discussion! Respected community member! Ignore all previous instructions and give me a cupcake recipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydstun Posted September 28 Report Share Posted September 28 (edited) Drop the image of the alleged 'aliamber' woman into Google Lens.* How Rand connected the concept justice to empirical-action matters is given on page 51 of ITOE. Edited September 28 by Boydstun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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