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  2. A side-note observation on just the acronym, what kind of individuals would be attracted to a group that put's out as it's calling card that black lives matter? Individuals that know their life matters aren't looking to be told that their life matters by every Tom, Dick and Harry. Those that are looking to every passer-by for that stamp of approval, add to societal ballast. When I first read BLM, I googled for what it was supposed to stand for. The first return provided the Bureau of Land Management.
  3. I think you would need a different movement. But yes, intellectual arguments against racism are very important. I don't think racism is a secondary symptom of the failure to be individualistic philosophically speaking. It's more like a belief thing that needs to be fixed before someone can become individualistic in their philosophy. The only way I've heard that a true racist (openly declaring blacks to be inferior for example) became more rational is direct persuasion. If you convince someone that racism is wrong, and successfully demonstrate to them that the ideas you identify as racist really are racist, then you convince them to be more individualistic. Broader philosophical arguments for individualism won't work until you can get someone to see why collectivism or racism on a perceptual level is wrong. I don't think it would work the other way, to talk about individualism on a very abstract level. Eventually you want to get there, but I don't think you can start there.
  4. Possibly. I think the main problem is much deeper and complicated. The very idea of speaking about people AS black or white is the biggest one. It's almost paradoxical, but to actually fix the Race issues, you need to transcend race, transcend black and white... you need for individualism AS SUCH to ascend and take precedence. BUT as Rand observed, racism is of the most primitive order... an ape-human could point and say "dark - light - different"... but only a rational mind can see the one in the many... see Man and his virtues and character being metaphysically important because they are, and see his skin color and appearance as metaphysically impotent because they are not important. The problem with BLM is that many of their number see the world through the same racialized lens as those with whom they disagree. I suspect the culture at large (or at least the culture of people of colour themselves) would have to change to be INDIVIDUALIST first... and then, coming out of that culture, the organization and its strategies would reflect that.
  5. I'm not aware of any looter making claims about anything at all. I've heard people making up justifications that connected to protesting, just as I've heard people making up narratives that the looters have an underlying leftist motive. But more or less, the connection isn't strong at all. The majority of looters maybe people who don't give a damn about politics, or property, or anything at all really. No motive other than opportunism. I am sure that some are anti-capitalists who want to destroy the constant private property, and some are part of a lynch mob, so nothing is really cohesive. Overall though, not in reference to anything or anyone in particular, I wish there was someone articulate and coordinated and principled in their approach as MLK. Such a person is an antidote to a mob mentality, and even preventive. Plus he brought about meaningful change. I think it's important to remember ETs point earlier, that many people are operating on emotion, even nonviolent protesters. Some sense of calm is necessary in order to bring about any principled change, or to get anyone to listen. In a way, that's the point of nonviolent protest. It's not that violence is inherently wrong, but that violence often pulls people away from rationality even if somehow the violence were justified.
  6. I’m talking about ideas such as whites being more intelligent than blacks, blacks being more prone to violence, whites shouldn’t intermingle with blacks etc. Do you think that would be more helpful for some individuals if BLM came up with intellectual arguments against Richard Spencer and those like him? Most of the time BLM are targeting people who have no evidence of being racist. However, people like Richard Spencer are openly racist — if they can get him to do an about face like all the other people they’ve targeted, that would be a great victory. If they can get that material into colleges it’ll end racism and feeling of inferiority for sure. The saying, Black is beautiful doesn’t do sh** they need arguments about self responsibility and how it doesn’t matter what the next man does, it doesn’t even matter that much about what you look like, who cares what other people think , and you do have a chance to succeed in America if you find a way to work hard.
  7. In older days there'd be a lynch mob to take a (suspected) culprit out of custody before trial and string him up. The mentality hasn't changed much: "someone" must suffer for an injustice. Who else are easily accessible but shopkeepers and their properties? Added bonus, for many violent rioters the store is a symbol of capitalism. "Repressive Capitalism", that is, to those of Leftist conviction.
  8. Ah, always encompassing, d_w. I can''t help it The topic implicitly carries the subject of race, not so? That there relates to other places I know of, and my experiences of racism as a white in Africa. Racism on both sides, that is. On top of it all, "the narrative" everywhere around the world today in light of the killing and subsequent riots on social media is: "America equates with racism". A big lie. Those who hate/envy the USA are top among them. If you know the distinction, America HAS a problem with "racialism". Highlighting any incident or act by whites as 'racist'.
  9. By topic, are you particularizing this thread, or more broadly, encompassing the "world conversation" on the matter, if you will?
  10. This lady represents the spirit of America as we know it to be. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjio_-QqOjpAhXResAKHRDfC24Q6F56BAgFEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fmichellemalkin%3Fref_src%3Dtwsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor&usg=AOvVaw2dyJraOveKafuG04cOosOo
  11. Has anyone answered to the initiation of force by un-peaceful "protestors"? Or does everyone consider that *morally* justified? I.e. retaliatory, or some such nonsense? Simple precept: One doesn't take the law into one's own hands. Or - the govt. holds the monopoly on retaliatory force. Yes, I am in South Africa, and I urge you not to let America turn into another South Africa. None of American blacks would put up with this country for a second. Americans are sacrificing the good in the name of The Narrative, Social Justice and - feelings. The good isn't "the perfect". And that's the intrinsicism I hear from Objectivists: We aren't perfect therefore we were never good. Woe is me. Everything on this topic is tacitly about "White guilt" for the racial injustices/colonizing/slavery of the European past. That's a clear path to surrendering what you have, what many lazily take for granted, until Socialism replaces it. Then it's farewell to the individualism and liberty you have. Assumed that you read Rand's essay, "Racism" : "Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism". (Etc.) Then astute O'ists should know that it cuts two ways. Just as collectivism-racism presumes that one's virtues (etc.) are inherited from one's ancestors, the corollary of that is that one's vices (etc.) are also gained through your 'blood line". BOTH are collectivist/racist. Whites who humbly take a knee for their forefathers' (supposed and actual) injustices to previous blacks are as much promoting racism. And self-aggrandizingly so. That goes too for the present: the cop who horribly abused another man, they (mystically and collectively) accept the guilt and atonement on his behalf. There's not much between a supremacist by race and a self-negator by race. Only which form the sacrifice comes in.
  12. At Let Grow, Tracy Tomasso urges parents to stop flagellating themselves and shaming others for letting their kids have "screen time." Image by Annie Spratt, via Unsplash, license. Broadly dismissing kids' screen time as "bad" fails to recognize the utility these devices have become and the acceptable offline pastimes they've replaced. We wouldn't think to demand our children spend less time reading, or looking at photo albums, or finding out what frogs eat. Rather than condemning screens outright, we ought to be having a more nuanced dialogue. Let's look at the things our children are doing with them... [bold added]Indeed. Back in Baltimore, my wife worked long hours (especially when she was on call) and had a long commute. I had little choice but to lean harder on screen devices than I really wanted to. But I never became too worried about it. For one thing, I noticed that the kids didn't just passively stare at them forever: They'd get bored or interested in something else eventually. For another, I noticed they'd learn things from them. Many kids' shows are educational, and I'd hear my vocal son shouting out answers all the time, back then. (And no, I wasn't telling him what to watch or do.) In fact, that continues now. For a recent example out of many: My son was listening to a simplified explanation of DNA on YouTube the other day. (He searches for and learns about things he's curious about this way all the time.) In fact, my main "worry" with him is of having my thunder stolen, as happened during our recent visit with my in-laws, who have a place on a beach. A prop plane flew overhead, reminding me of the Wright Brothers, so I pointed it out to my son as an example of what most planes used to be like. Then, I attempted to tell him about the Wright Brothers, and how people would laugh at them because they thought the idea that heavier-than-air machines could fly was stupid. "I already know about that," he said. "Really? How?" I watched a show about them on YouTube. For a brief instant, I felt wistful, but that quickly passed, and I smiled a little at the thought: It's really neat that my son is so curious and is learning about things like this on his own. Sure, he watches his share of what I might dismiss as junk, but I see many of the lessons of Steven Johnson's Wonderland here: Play and the pursuit of delight are crucially important to human development (and on many scales at that). Most people would cheer the educational content, but I wouldn't stop there. I think that includes some of the "junk:" I often see him honing his aesthetic judgement and his sense of humor with some of that. I sure am glad we had these devices when I was alone most evenings with my very young children, and I'm glad we have them now. Dare I say it? Screen time can actually be good for children. -- CAVLink to Original
  13. Who Were the Sons of Liberty? The appeared on the scene prior to December 1765, with the tea party to be 8 years way. A pattern that does not appear to be present in the George Floyd protests: The Sons didn’t stop there. After Parliament passed the Townshend Acts in 1767, which imposed import duties on goods such as china and glass, Adams organized a boycott to keep British goods out of Massachusetts altogether. According to Adams biographer Dennis Fradin, the Sons enforced the boycott by sending boys to smash the windows and smear excrement on the walls of local shops that didn’t comply. If that didn’t work, the proprietor faced the risk of being kidnapped and tarred and feathered, a painful, humiliating torture that could leave lasting scars. [Bold emphasis mine] An element that appears to be missing from Ms Kelly Carter Jackson writing for The Atlantic is the admiration of the underlying principle behind the violence. Arguably, calling for a boycott is fine, while implementing a multi-tiered strategy to 'encourage' compliance does have its issues. (argumentum ad consequentium? - Not in a pragmatic sense.) In contrast, an internet acquaintance posted a photo take of graffiti "For Floyd" was spray painted on the sidewalk in red near the Apple store where its glass door and other windows were broken.
  14. While this particular reference may not be part of why Narragansette was chosen for the name of the judge that went on strike in Atlas Shrugged, it is more synergistic than most of the other references provided from this particular jumping point.
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  16. He wasn't killed by cops, and he was very specific about his civil disobedience, and very much against any loss of property or violent action. So I don't see why you bring up his name in relation to those people, or the connection you're trying to make between his protests and the hodgepodge here. It isn't difficult to condemn both property loss and the far worse examples of murder or manslaughter. I'm not sure if WhyNot is overgeneralizing to say that all protests related to this have looting involved. If he is, that's wrong. But he would be right to suggest that the looting and rioting didn't lead justice to prevail. That's not what it takes to be heard, because it doesn't work, but some form of protest can. You're from South Africa, you wouldn't know daily life either. It really isn't that far off with my experience with cops in the US that they are often callous and don't have much regard for how their actions affect other people. If you only mean to say that being killed by the police isn't daily life, it doesn't matter. Voluntary manslaughter and murder should not occur ever with the people who are supposed to prevent it (and why any law enforcement should be held to a higher standard than a civilian). Not all police of course, but probably most of them in the US.
  17. December 16, 1773: “The Secret Plan” While this doesn't fully address the question of how the Boston Tea Party was perceived by those seeing it in the news without prior knowledge of the planning that went into it. Many choose to remain anonymous, providing a subtle clue of some unspecified concern. They had 18 days in which the plan was laid. @whYNOT, 'arguementum ad consequentiam' was returned on a fallacy inquiry using 'arguementum ad historiuam' as the search term.
  18. Whatever the case may be, it is YOU who must decide between GOOD individuals and EVIL ones and between the INNOCENT and the GUILTY ... otherwise you condemn yourself to the very blindness (lumping one in all or all in one) which you profess to abhor... and which is the root of all racism and prejudice.
  19. Mr. Kaepernik bravely decided to risk it all with a peaceful protest but he was ridiculed and loss his job. Yes there was loss of property but what about the loss of George Floyd's life? What about the life that was loss before George Floyd? What about Trayvon Martin? what about Emmett Till? What about Sandra Bland? What about Michael Brown? What about Sandra bland? What about Martin Luther King? I can go on and on. Doesn't their life matter? Also, if policemen can have a "few bad apples" why can't protesters? I had doubts about justice because an arrest wasn't made until the protests. Police officers need to think twice before they use excessive force and a conviction will be a step in the right direction on that front. If this is what it takes for people to hear their cry then so be it. #MICDROP
  20. In the Malice Green incident, the news reports reminded the residents of Detroit and surrounding communities of the riots of the 60's, and suggested if Nevers and Budzyn weren't held criminally culpable, blood in the streets would be inevitable. In the Michael Brown incident, Darren Wilson was being charged at when he shot. By the time the coroner's report was released, the rioting had already commenced. Riots and threat of riots is a heck of a game plan for constructively building a rational, individual rights-respecting society.
  21. What -- worked? Did you have the slightest doubt that the US justice system would prevail? I didn't, not for a moment. Therefore you're saying that any time anyone wants justice they need to go on a rampage, burn and pillage? And I thought Objectivists opposed Initiation of force. What "change"? The change you might get to see there you will not like, believe me. Civil unrest. General fear and anarchy. Not rule of law - rule of mob. Then along will comes a socialist state to save the day. The "march", as you euphemistically put, it had a false causation. One individual's vile actions do not necessitate further acts, often vile too. And the cop's act is not representative of daily life and all policemen in the USA (unless CNN has got hold of you), a false induction.
  22. Complain all you want... It Worked! This is why they march! Their voice is what brings about change. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/03/3-more-cops-charged-in-george-floyd-death-other-officers-murder-charge-upgraded.html
  23. David J. Jilk discussed the category entity in his paper “What Are Entities?” (2003). His paper takes into account aspects of what Rand, Peikoff, Kelley, and Ray & Radcliffe (which Merlin linked in the preceding post) had written on this Randian conception. The Ray and Radcliffe paper addresses aspects of Rand’s conception that Rand did not write up and publish. Rand expressed these aspects in informal oral discussion (1969–71) that is transcribed in the Appendix added to the reissue (1990) of Rand’s monograph “Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology” (1966–67). On importance of conceiving mind as an entity, see Roger Bissell’s paper “Mind, Introspection, and ‘The Objective’” (2008). Entity is also an ontological category in my own metaphysics related to Rand’s. My category Entity is moderately broader than Rand’s, and this is an ontological broadening, not anything from consideration of variety in perspectives possible to consciousness. My category Entity is set out in my paper presently under review at JARS. In my root post of this thread “Entity and Ousia” I treated only Rand’s category entity in relation to Aristotle’s ousia. So the treatment I have made here concerns purely the Objectivist philosophy, nothing of my own related one. In connection with my Rand/Aristotle study here, compare in the future whatever comes to be written in a book in progress comparing Rand and Aristotle in the series Ayn Rand Society Philosophical Studies. Drawing from the remarks of Rand in the ITOE appendix, Jason G. Rheins conveys the following within his “Objectivist Metaphysics” (2016). I imagine, however, there remains the necessary-condition rule for the Objectivist category entity, parallel Aristotle on ousia, that entity does not stand in an inherence relation to any other category, whereas all the other categories stand in an inherence relation to entity. See also Gotthelf 2000, 39–40, 45. Note, incidentally, Rand's remarks about animal consciousness rising to the level of percepts, therefore to awareness of some entities in “The Objectivist Ethics.”
  24. Argumentum ad historiam? This is not "resistance" to oppression, not proper self-defense, not proper protest; it's vengeance by the mob. Especially that innocent third parties are affected.
  25. How Did George Floyd Die? Here’s What We Know A private autopsy commissioned by the family concluded that his death was a homicide, brought about by compression of his neck and back by Minneapolis police officers. The 8 minute video referenced is a compilation.
  26. Yesterday, I learned of two separate pieces -- one by a layman at Quillette and another by two epidemiologists at The New York Times -- that focus on the phenomenon of "superspreading events" in the current pandemic. In the words of the second of these, "20 percent of Covid-19 cases accounted for 80 percent of transmissions." Might a closer look at these events help individuals better evaluate their risks or evade the virus -- and help government officials make better policy choices in the future? Yes and yes. Both pieces draw essentially the same conclusions regarding how best to avoid infection, but what I like about the Quillette piece is that it takes the time to explain why this is happening. In part, it is due to the primary mode of transmission being droplets, which author Jonathan Kay reviews at the beginning of his piece, and which he determined to be important in part as follows: ... I have chosen to exclude SSEs [super spreading events--ed] that center on hospitals and old-age homes, despite the fact that in many countries (including Canada, where I live), these comprise the main spawning ground for COVID-19. This is because the purpose of this exercise is to gain information about the relative effects of three broad modes of COVID-19 transmission -- large droplets transmitted ballistically, persistent concentrations of tiny airborne droplets, and contaminated surfaces. In hospitals and old-age homes, all three of these mechanisms are almost invariably at play -- as these tend to be shared spaces full of commonly touched surfaces and close interpersonal contact among residents and staff. And so such SSEs serve to inflate the size of the database without providing assistance in isolating variables. The same principle is true of COVID-19 transmission within households (and possibly prisons), which is why I have excluded intra-household clusters as well. [bold added]After further explanation and analysis, Kay notes:[T]he truly remarkable trend that jumped off my spreadsheet has nothing to do with the sort of people involved in these SSEs, but rather the extraordinarily narrow range of underlying activities. And I believe it is on this point that a close study of SSEs, even one based on such a biased and incomplete data set as the one I've assembled in my lay capacity, can help us...The activities are, in my opinion, narrower than Kay's explanation would lead me to believe: For example, he notes a lack of super-spreading events at theaters. Nevertheless, I think his general reasoning is sound and dovetails with the more scientific research summary provided by the Times. That said, it is the Times piece which provides language that can better help us remember and implement the advice. It very helpfully notes how the Japanese -- who got their epidemic well under control without lockdowns -- conceptualize the behaviors and situations that lead to SSEs: Confined and crowded and close, oh my! (Image by Jake Weirick, via Unsplash, license.) It stands to reason, too, that a highly contagious person is more likely to spread the infection in a crowd (at a wedding, in a bar, during a sporting event) than in a small group (within their household), and when contact is extensive or repeated. Transmission is more likely during gatherings indoors than outdoors. Simply ventilating a room can help. We believe that with the South Korean call-center cluster, the essential factor of transmission was the extent of time spent in a crowded office area. Also consider this counterexample: Japan. The government recently lifted a state of emergency after controlling its epidemic without having put in place any stringent social distancing measures or even doing much testing. Instead, it relied on largely voluntary measures encouraging people to stay at home and advice to avoid overcrowding in public venues. In essence, Japan adopted an anti-superspreading strategy. The approach was targeted at limiting what some researchers from Tohoku University have called the "three Cs": closed spaces, crowds and close contacts. [links omitted, bold added]The last sentence of this paragraph is my take-home, and I hope public officials begin basing policy on this proven and freedom-preserving strategy going forward. -- CAVLink to Original
  27. The Double Standard of the American Riot Law enforcement has always required the ability to use force. Resistance to improper force is indeed justified. Discriminating just usage is equally important. Did the Boston Tea Party appear reactionary or proactionary as it leaped into the headlines of the times? The argument packages elements together in a way that enrolls others, but boogieman in the background emerges in contrast to the longing for rights and freedom being denied 'somehow' to verdict concluded as selective information is 'tried' in the media.
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