2008 Presidential Candidates

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Its a Conspiracy eh ?

Who told you that then ? The collectivists thats who ! You want to listen to your enemy ?

You want sources ? No problem.

CNN

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/02/13/knighthoods/

New York Times

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html…751C0A9649C8B63

US Constitution:

Titles of nobility were prohibited by both Article VI of the Articles of Confederation (1777) and in Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution of the United States.

Article VI: […] nor shall any person holding any office of profit or trust under the United States, or any of them, accept any present, emolument, office or title of any kind whatever from any King, Prince or foreign State; nor shall the United States in Congress assembled, or any of them, grant any title of nobility.

Article I, Section 9: No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

So, since Giuliani holds the title of “Sir” or “Knight” under both the Constitution and the Articles of Confederation he cannot hold “any office office of trust,” which includes the office of President.

Because these knighthoods and secret orders were created by the very Collectivists that we are engaged with. They are the Ancient mystery schools of Babylon. This is the old battle that Ayn Rand teaches us about, between Freedom and these Socialists.

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US Constitution:

Titles of nobility were prohibited by both Article VI of the Articles of Confederation (1777) and in Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution of the United States.

Article VI: […] nor shall any person holding any office of profit or trust under the United States, or any of them, accept any present, emolument, office or title of any kind whatever from any King, Prince or foreign State; nor shall the United States in Congress assembled, or any of them, grant any title of nobility.

Article I, Section 9: No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

So, since Giuliani holds the title of “Sir” or “Knight” under both the Constitution and the Articles of Confederation he cannot hold “any office office of trust,” which includes the office of President.

Because these knighthoods and secret orders were created by the very Collectivists that we are engaged with. They are the Ancient mystery schools of Babylon. This is the old battle that Ayn Rand teaches us about, between Freedom and these Socialists.

At the time, Giuliani was no longer mayor of New York. He was a private citizen. Since he was holding no “Office of Profit or Trust” at the time of his knighthood, I dont think this applies. Were he to accept such an honor while serving as president, you might have a point.

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Sigh,

Never is this acceptable.

I direct you to the Speech JFK did on secret societies a few months before he was killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA

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Xare,

Are you suggesting that this knighthood reveals some secret alliance between Rudy and the Queen of England? Or is it more nefarious than that?

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Sigh,

Never is this acceptable.

I direct you to the Speech JFK did on secret societies a few months before he was killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnkdfFAqsHA

OMG SKULL AND BONES ILLUMINATI FREEMASON LIZARD MEN KILLED KENNEDY! It’s all so clear now!

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Worse yet, he wants American troops out of Iraq which will only serve to strengthen the hand of the Iranians and weaken our own.

With the way that we are “fighting” the war in Iraq, the best thing we can do for now is to pull out. All the current strategy is doing is wearing down our men and equipment, while doing nothing to combat Islamic Fundamentalists. Until we (as a nation, not the few of us on this board) are willing to recognize the enemy for what it is, and fight with the intention of wiping them out, we have no business playing at war in the Middle East. I would rather see Ron Paul do the right thing for the wrong reason than watch our military slowly destroy itself.

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Ron Paul made not be as rabid of a pacifist as Dennis Kucinich, but I still think that like the Bush Administration, he fails to identify the enemy here. <snip>Today, we are at war with militant Islamic Fundamentalism.

While I completely agree with you, it would be political suicide to say such a thing publicly. Until we are able to change the prevailing philosophy of multiculturalism and blind tolerance, we will not be able to have a leader who will name the enemy and pursue them appropriately.

Are you familiar with Stephen Flynn’s book America the Vulnerable? If so, do you have an opinion on its content?

I’m not, but I’ll add it to my reading list.

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So, since Giuliani holds the title of “Sir” or “Knight” under both the Constitution and the Articles of Confederation he cannot hold “any office office of trust,” which includes the office of President.

This is incorrect. Rudy Giuliani received honorary knighthood. Although he is able to append the letters KBE (Knight commander of the British Empire) after his name, he cannot call himself “Sir” since he is not a citizen of the United Kingdom. Several other prominent Americans hold this honor including former President George H. W. Bush, the late Ronald Reagan, former General Norman Schwarzkopf and Alan Greenspan.

Besides, if Rudy is ineligible to become President, why would he waste all of this money campaigning? Surely his campaign is not so inept to overlook this.

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While I completely agree with you, it would be political suicide to [identify the enemy as militant Islamic Fundamentalism] publicly.

Let’s put this theory into practice. Rudy Giuliani sometimes does identify the enemy as “radical Islamist” [1] or “radical Islamic fascism” [2] depending on his audience. Moreover, here is a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWAAJ8kT6D0

of Rudy Giuliani explicitly chastising the Democrats for not using the word “Islamic Terrorism”. Here is a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eerui2Cm6R4

of Rudy repeatedly identifying the enemy as radical Islamists in a town hall setting. Here is Rudy Giuliani

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlJe\_RdPOG0

during an interview with Charlie Rose.

Thusfar, he is still leading in the Republican primary polls according to many sources. Properly identifying the enemy is not political suicide.

[1] Bottom of the first full paragraph.

[2] First paragraph under the header “WINNING THE EARLY BATTLES OF THE LONG WAR”

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That’s encouraging, thanks for posting those links.

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So then its acceptable to you and not unconstitutional to have “honorary” knighthoods to a foreign empire which was formally our enemy ? What a handy loophole, “When in trouble: Use Lawyer speech!”

“nor shall any person holding any office of profit or trust under the United States, or any of them, accept any present, emolument, office or title of any kind whatever from any King, Prince or foreign State; nor shall the United States in Congress assembled, or any of them, grant any title of nobility.”

Our enemy is not only Islamo Fascism. But all forms of Socialism / Collectivism. The old Bloodlines like the Merovingian Kings and the mystery schools is where knighthoods come from.

And these people have root in our very own backyard. Just take Hillary for example, she has been known to walk around wearing a Mau Pin, shes a commie. :slight_smile:

She wants to push on us socialized health care, and a very many other unspeakable things she has planned for us.

Ive been taking a very close look at our enemy of late and can assure you that most Americans are oblivious to how the Socialists are subverting our Republic. For example, look at how many cops are freemasons.

But Ron Paul and his followers,an educated public stand for our Constitutional Rights and want to see our Limited Government Republic that we swore allegiance to as children.

Not a Democracy / Mob Rule where the masses make rules after rules after rules for Individuals.

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So then its acceptable to you and not unconstitutional to have “honorary” knighthoods to a foreign empire which was formally our enemy ? What a handy loophole, “When in trouble: Use Lawyer speech!”

I doubt you’ll find many people who care that Giuliani was given an honorary title by a Monarch who has no actual power. Time to take a break from all the Alex Jones “documentaries.”