Another sub-committee passed the ObamaCare legislation. These are fairly tight votes, but still passing. They are going to try to ram it onto the American people by August.
If this is passed into law more or less intact as it is now, what are my options? The way I see it, I have 3:
- Obey (meaning purchase unwanted healthcare at the point of a gun), but protest.
- Disobey, but pay the fine.
- Disobey, and don’t pay the fine.
The last one is the only option I see as having any sort of effect. Unfortunately, a LOT of people would have to grow spines rather quickly in order for it to work. Thoughts?
What? Insuring everyone will cost MORE? That UN Possible!
When I write my Senators, asking them to vote NO, be they liberals or conservatives, all I get back is a form letter stating that both sides of the isle have agreed that the government “must do something.” A phrase that sends shivers down my spine.
How about writing back to them saying no, they don’t. It’s not government’s job, and in fact, by getting involved, government will cause the decline in the availability of health care and health insurance.
How about writing back to them saying no, they don’t. It’s not government’s job, and in fact, by getting involved, government will cause the decline in the availability of health care and health insurance.
But we must act on the expediency of the moment! We don’t have time for principles!
Seriously, though, on the plus side, Obama’s public plan is now opposed 35-50%.
How about writing back to them saying no, they don’t. It’s not government’s job, and in fact, by getting involved, government will cause the decline in the availability of health care and health insurance.
But we must act on the expediency of the moment! We don’t have time for principles!
Seriously, though, on the plus side, Obama’s plan gets less popular by the day.
How about writing back to them saying no, they don’t. It’s not government’s job, and in fact, by getting involved, government will cause the decline in the availability of health care and health insurance.
I DO write them back and say if you “must take action” then I must take action to try to convince everyone I know, who votes, to make sure you don’t have the ability to “take action” in the future.
I don’t get many responses using this approach.
I see it’s possible they won’t succeed in getting this passed so I am just hanging on to that thin hope.
There is a group of 6 or so Democrats in the Senate who are urging that this legislative juggernaut be slowed down. It is key to prevent this from being passed before the August recess. If that happens, we’ll have a much better chance to build the support needed to defeat it for good.
On second thought, defeating it for good will be impossible. National healthcare is the holy grail for the Left and they are going to keep after it until they succeed.
I wouldn’t count out the possibility that it will be strung along indefinitely until the next Congressional elections, when the Republicans will be likely to gain some seats. Obama’s honeymoon is all but over, and people are getting frustrated with all the spending and nationalization. Here’s hoping the Republicans can rise from the ashes and rediscover their small government roots.
I’ve noticed that the easiest way to kill a thread is for me to post in it.
I wouldn’t count out the possibility that it will be strung along indefinitely until the next Congressional elections, when the Republicans will be likely to gain some seats. Obama’s honeymoon is all but over, and people are getting frustrated with all the spending and nationalization. Here’s hoping the Republicans can rise from the ashes and rediscover their small government roots.
We’ll see, but Obama won’t give up easily on this one. The Left’s quest for national healthcare extends back to the early 1900s and the Progressive Era.
What’s a few trillion more in the pile? The problem goes far beyond health care bills. This is one manifestation of a sickness in America. *Shrug*
In the New York Times July 18
Comparing the Health Care Bills
This is going to cause even more bankruptcies and businesses going overseas. It’s insane. These aren’t people, they’re barbarians.
We had practically the same thing they are pushing here in Tennessee. It was called “TennCare,” and was an unmitigated disaster.
The program in Mass. has also turned out to be a disaster. Everywhere it’s tried, these kinds of government-run healthcare plans are a complete mess. When you have faith in the Messiah’s brand of “change”, it’s easy to dismiss real world experiences and evidence.
I had a very revealing conversation with a coworker today. This isn’t the kind of guy who will be convinced by moral arguments, so I was arguing against the practicality of the bill. The main point I raised is that it will decrease competition and, eventually, force people to use the public option, which will provide lower-quality care. His response was “why should you have better health care than everyone else?” I was dumb-struck. He actually believed that, rather than improving health care for everyone else, people like myself who have coverage through a private company should be brought down to the level of the lowest common denominator.
When I pointed out to him that he basically just admitted his primary goal was to bring down health care for the rich, rather than improve it for the poor, he gave me the standard line about “equality.” This isn’t the attitude of everyone who supports health care reform…some people think it will actually work. While I think they are misguided and, ultimately, wrong, I don’t hold it against them to the same degree that I hold it against this guy. What a contemptible way to view the world.
I had a very revealing conversation with a coworker today. This isn’t the kind of guy who will be convinced by moral arguments, so I was arguing against the practicality of the bill. The main point I raised is that it will decrease competition and, eventually, force people to use the public option, which will provide lower-quality care. His response was “why should you have better health care than everyone else?” I was dumb-struck. He actually believed that, rather than improving health care for everyone else, people like myself who have coverage through a private company should be brought down to the level of the lowest common denominator.
When I pointed out to him that he basically just admitted his primary goal was to bring down health care for the rich, rather than improve it for the poor, he gave me the standard line about “equality.” This isn’t the attitude of everyone who supports health care reform…some people think it will actually work. While I think they are misguided and, ultimately, wrong, I don’t hold it against them to the same degree that I hold it against this guy. What a contemptible way to view the world.
The next time someone says something like that to me, I shall respond, “Because I am willing to work for it and I earn it. Why don’t you want to do the same?”
The next time someone says something like that to me, I shall respond, “Because I am willing to work for it and I earn it. Why don’t you want to do the same?”
I doubt you’d get a rational response. You’re dealing with someone who has the same morality as a thief. In fact, the thief is probably easier to deal with than the moral coward who uses government to do his bidding.
From http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/go…amp;newsLang=en
Responding to a question, President Obama said, “Part of what we want to do is to make sure that those decisions are being made by doctors and medical experts based on evidence, based on what works…. Right now, doctors a lot of times are forced to make decisions based on the fee payment schedule that’s out there. … the doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself, 'You know what? I make a lot more money if I take this kid’s tonsils out … I’d rather have that doctor making those decisions based on whether you really need your kid’s tonsils out, or whether … something else would make a difference…. So part of what we want to do is to free doctors, patients, hospitals to make decisions based on what’s best for patient care.”
From The Heritage Society today:
The American Academy of Otolaryngology - Head and Neck Surgery responded to President Obama’s prescription for less tonsillectomies: “the AAO-HNS is disappointed by the President’s portrayal of the decision making processes by the physicians who perform these surgeries. In many cases, tonsillectomy may be a more effective treatment, and less costly, than prolonged or repeated treatments for an infected throat.”
My uncle is an ENT and he makes about $100 on this procedure that is rarely done any longer. :lol: