Global Warming Skeptics Plot Carbon Belch Day
Conservative grassroots group Grassfire.org wants people to waste as much energy as possible on June 12 by “hosting a barbecue, going for a drive, watching television, leaving a few lights on, or even smoking a few cigars.” The point: the group wants to “help Americans break free from the ‘carbon footprint guilt’ being imposed by Climate Alarmists.”
I had this idea myself. I’m glad somebody made it a reality. But we can all do are own part each and every day to make sure our “carbon foot-print” is as large as possible. :lol:
I thought that’s what Earth Hour and Earth Day are for? Why do we need our own special day when raining on their parade is so much more fun? :lol:
I drive several hours a day for my job and when I’m not at work I’m usually playing guitar through a tube amp which produces more CO2 than your average light bulb. Every day is Carbon Belch day for me :lol: .
Conservative grassroots group Grassfire.org wants people to waste as much energy as possible on June 12 by “hosting a barbecue, going for a drive, watching television, leaving a few lights on, or even smoking a few cigars.” The point: the group wants to “help Americans break free from the ‘carbon footprint guilt’ being imposed by Climate Alarmists.”
The emphasis is mine. If the actual emphasis of this holiday is on wasting energy, that is, using large amounts energy with no rational benefit, this idea sounds pretty stupid to me. Not only could this be expensive but the goal itself appears to be nihilistic.
Instead, we should focus on a positive. For example, establishing a day where we celebrate the heroic achievements of the industrialists who revolutionized coal, electricity, oil and other vital resources?
I’m going to side with DarkWaters here, wasting energy to no good end is stupid.
Stupid, but whoever named it “Carbon Belch” gets a point for creativity.
Stupid, but whoever named it “Carbon Belch” gets a point for creativity.
Yeah, they could have gone with “carbon flatulence.” I’ll bet someone thought of it. :pirate:
I have to question the motivations of anyone who actually supports this. I’m no fan of environmentalists, but the notion of having a day where you intentionally damage the environment seems nihilistic to me. While environmentalist wackos may go overboard, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask that people refrain from going out of their way to pollute the air, for the sole purpose of polluting the air.
We should celebrate Eudaimonia Day.
I have to question the motivations of anyone who actually supports this. I’m no fan of environmentalists, but the notion of having a day where you intentionally damage the environment seems nihilistic to me.
What damage are you TALKING about?? Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant.
Actually the rational point to deliberately expending energy that day would be to piss off the enviros.
K-mac got it half right when she said it was best to rain on their parade, I do have to wonder though if she was thinking of acid rain. :pirate:
Check out the ads that pop-up at the bottom of this thread because of the topic… priceless. :pirate:
Actually the rational point to deliberately expending energy that day would be to piss off the enviros.
Being offensive is not equivalent to stating a rational counterpoint.
I do not recommend endorsing a cause that encourages the mindless waste of resources. I especially would not want such a cause to be mistakenly associated with Objectivist ideals. Such an association will only add to the unfortunately common misperception that rational self-interest means you can do whatever the hell you feel like.
I thought that’s what Earth Hour and Earth Day are for? Why do we need our own special day when raining on their parade is so much more fun? :pirate:
Perhaps I should clarify…
I think Earth Hour and Earth Day are the perfect time to illustrate our valid points on the issue of “man made” global warming. I would like to rain on their parade by defiantly not participating, and instead use all of the days’ events, news stories and other publicity stunts as examples to point out what their agenda is really about. I am not into wasting electricity, gas or any other natural or man made resource because I cannot afford to waste it and to waste it just doesn’t make good, common sense.
Oh, I understood you, K., my brain just did a word association rain->acid rain and I remembered that was their big cause of the year back in the early 80s. Just appreciating the irony.
Our local silverback, DarkWaters, succeded in phrasing his point in a way that has made me change my mind. It’s not worth doing this just to torque the viros off (OTOH if one has an aneurysm because he gets mad about this…). A rational response is called for; that will probably also offend them.
I would like to say that DarkWaters has also changed my mind.
A rational response is called for; that will probably also offend them.
That’s right. Actually applying Objectivist principles instead of just being nihilistic is offense enough to environmentalists, and we need not go any further in our pissing-off.
I’d like to know what you all find nihilistic about “hosting a barbecue, going for a drive, watching television, leaving a few lights on, or even smoking a few cigars?”
I think “waste” was the wrong word to use, they were looking for something more along the lines of “use shamelessly as you see fit” or “don’t hold back if you feel like doing something which produces carbon.”
I’d like to know what you all find nihilistic about “hosting a barbecue, going for a drive, watching television, leaving a few lights on, or even smoking a few cigars?”
DarkWaters covered it in post number five. The problem is in wasting energy for no other reason than make environmentalists angry. That is nihilistic because that would be mocking a value that someone is holding simply because it’s a value they’re holding. The things you describe are not cases of wasting energy, but using it for a purpose that benefits one in one fashion or another.