Integrity

Yeah, please clarify what you mean.

This was the part at the end of the book, where Gail had began to fall apart mentally, losing many of his rational virtues. At this point, Roark did not judge quite the same way as he would usually do others. He did not follow his judgement precisely, but gave Gail benefit of the doubt, allowing him for more layaway then he would give many others. Roark did change his mind after seeing how Gail fall apart, pretty quickly.

I do not have the book with me for the moment, but I do recall Ayn Rand stating that Roark gave Gail something that one gives only to those one loves - extra chances (I don’t recall the exact phrase here). I will look it up once I get my hands on The Fountainhead again.

Well, how would you advise her to communicate with someone who refuses to communicate?

One cannot in such case.

Unless the guy completely changes his attitude, I don’t see how any further attempts to remedy the situation can do any good.

Yes, I agree with that.

I’ve found the book nearby. Here is the snippet I’m referring to:

He [Roark]did not know that Wynand had once said all love is exception-making; and Wynand would not know that Roark had loved him enough to make his greatest exception, one moment when he tried to compromise. Then he knew it was useless, like all sacrifices.

Pg. 698, top of the page, The Fountainhead, Book “Howard Roark”, chapter XVII

To answer some of your questions, I have spoken with him about this matter. Every time we conversed, it was initiated by me, and the need for communication was largely discussed. I found an enormous need for better communication in our relationship and wanted both of us to strive for it.

On the contrary, he believes lack of communication isn’t a problem. I didn’t seem to pick up from his side of the conversation what the problem is, if not lack of communication. He basically doesn’t want me to question him, and his reasons for not questioning me are that he trusts me. Please keep in mind that I do provide him with all relevant information about my whereabouts (irrelevant would be “I’m going to be in the bathroom for ten minutes”) so he doesn’t ever need to ask.

To me, good communication basically eliminates the need to question the whereabouts of your partner (so they don’t feel you are assaulting them every time they come home), their honesty, and their loyalty. Here, he stated that if I didn’t trust him, then I didn’t deserve to be with him. Imagine that…

He really seems unwilling to try to better things, but I don’t think he knows that if this continues, I will not stick around while he pretends to be Howard Roark- he admitted to trying to act like characters in Rand’s novels. My issue with this is while I enjoy her novels and their characters very much, I have a problem with the relationships where lovers say something like

“I want you, so I am going to effectively punish myself and not carry out my feelings even though I want to and you want me to. See you again in ten years or so.”

While I was talking to him, I was calm and careful with my words, whereas he was slouched back like a child being diciplined with his arms folded, and a very interesting added touch of constant exasperated sighs and eye rolling.

This did not look good to me.

I am not married to this man, but I do live with him. My name is not on the lease.

I want him to want to help me fix what has gone wrong. I can’t do it by myself.

That ain’t no Howard Roark…

He really seems unwilling to try to better things, but I don’t think he knows that if this continues, I will not stick around while he pretends to be Howard Roark

Then you should let him know that.

My issue with this is while I enjoy her novels and their characters very much, I have a problem with the relationships where lovers say something like

“I want you, so I am going to effectively punish myself and not carry out my feelings even though I want to and you want me to. See you again in ten years or so.”

The problem is not with Ayn Rand’s novels, but with this shortcut for self esteem that your boyfriend is making. The characters in the novel had a certain context for their decisions. He doesn’t have the same context.

What he is doing is quite similar to the way some teenagers try to imitate members of their favorite band…

Unfortunately, I don’t have any advice on possible ways to “reach out” to him. I know how frustrating it feels, especially because you knew him at a time when you found his mind to be functioning well. You keep on thinking that maybe if you try hard enough you would find some way through… But honestly, I don’t know if such a change can come from anything you do. Give it some more thought: If you come up with the conclusion that you can’t change it, learn to accept this fact: that you cannot change him. Only he can.

I just feel sorry for you, I know how you must feel. I used to have a friend I really admired a few years ago.

She went through some bad time and changed 180 degrees in character. The most painful thing about it was the process of realizing that it indeed happened, and the inability to understand how or why (she refused to talk to me about it, and in general).

I want him to want to help me fix what has gone wrong. I can’t do it by myself.

Yep. You just have to learn to accept that fact: You cannot do it yourself. The sooner you accept it the better you would feel.

First, start by telling him you don’t have ESP. So if he wants this relationship to work, he needs to start talking or get the hell out of your way.

I cannot bring myself to even comprehend what he means by saying he is indifferent to your presence when he in fact professes love for you. I’m in love and I know that when she’s around I barely notice anything else.

It takes two to enjoy and cherish a relationship and you deserve better than him saying “its ok that I ignore you.” By what standard?

Dinesh.

Thanks everyone. I will continue this matter closed, even though some may still like to discuss it in the future.