new utopia real objectivist ? or just a id fraud

hi

(sorry for my bad enghlis its my 2. langues and have dyslectic) did look on new utopia city state project (www.new-utopia.com) start to wonder is this realy a objectvist project (looks like they have laws that allso can be clasefid as survlisit/extropay/redneck libertarian (sarah palin? and lew rockwell? pat buchanen?)= religus rhigt or anti imigration/raccist/anti femenists/anti black)?

or is its just a fraud/failed investment that the charter citizens have had a class action aginst?

(server have been moved from texas to florida to britan )ther bussnis plan part of the project and the build house on the flotilla part have been closed the govoners changed and many of the school and airport and trust/comapny things that was part of the project did stop ther have diseperd,but maybe the can bee sued in caymen island becuse they ahd a office ther ?

angry investoer did a settelemnt outside court ?

wher can you look if you sgin up for this project ?

its look more like a dubai like project too me and are dubai actuly a place for objectvisits(it actuly did get statrted before dubai and dubai fail when the deppreson started)wher its not too liberal policys?look more like a police state for ritch old stock brokers then a libertaian utopia and a obejctvist place but not guns…

they delayed the project each 2. year can alle the difrent libertain live togehter peacfuley other then in a A-C system ?

did the investers sue them if so wher can get more info abut that ?this proejct got lot of press in the late 90s and ealry 2000s but not much info abut what realy happend

it did allso menntion karl pooper and robert heinlein not extaly a objectvist ?

did try too look on internet but nothing after 2005 hope sombody can help

agin sorry for my bad writng in from north europe (so maybe expelin principely deeply since usa liberal ideas are very difrent from my culture ;)and pason)

From their constitution…

Section 1.3. Political System. The Principality of New Utopia shall be a

Constitutional Monarchy.

That ought to answer your question about this being an Objectivist(?) “nation”. How could someone ever reconcile the political ideal of constitutional monarchism with Objectivism? A monarchy relies on the ideal that some people are fit to rule others by virtue of their ‘royal birth’. As a political (and social) ideal it ranks right up there with racism, oligarchy and fascism.

…except that a constitutional monarch has very little power, and in fact could be nothing but a figurehead.

Of course there’s still the problem of that monarch having a state-subsidized existence for their entire life.

…except that a constitutional monarch has very little power, and in fact could be nothing but a figurehead.

Of course there’s still the problem of that monarch having a state-subsidized existence for their entire life.

Actually the monarch has considerable power, it may not be exercised but the power is there. Each and every law must be approved by the monarch, the monarch is the Commander in Chief, the monarch has the power of veto and can dissolve parliament. All of this aside the idea of a hereditary monarch at the legal ruler of a country is about as far from the ideals of Objectivism as one can get.

so is this a fraud if so can you anwser my fraud quaistein?

(sorry for my bad spelling )

anybdoy know id sombody have sued a new state project before and got ther mony back ?

anywwher too look on the internet ?

ok its not more objevstbist then barhein or dubai free trade zones:)

eh too me it looks like they just take a gun or a new speech when they are on a luxry hotel in london (brunei dubai kuwait ) if they think the rules get to much or they build up strong nussnis gruops thar buils up ther poltical gruops inside or otuside ther country but i guss this are off topic ina objectvis pilsophy countrys :slight_smile: looks like moste sucsefull kingdoms are getting mony form oil or gas annyway

I’d totally go for Bahrein or Dubai rathern than this fake Principality. At least Arabs are well known to value their word and contracted obligations. And along with all other Semitic peoples from Jews to Somalis, they have the longest kept tradition among humans to deal with trade. (After all it was the Aryan Persians who expropriated the oil wells in the 70s, not the Shemitic Arabians).

if allerediy sign up any posibiltity to get your mony back from this project ?

anybody know what to do ?

becuse the server changed localiation many times.. sombody did have to sued them ?

lawsuite anybody sued some other faild libertarian projects ?

if new utopia do have 3000 charter citziens dont some of them post somthing abut a slow project that was suopsed to be stated in 2004 in some libertarian/objectvist forum ?

a investor website said it was arsted for fraud in 2007 but cant find more info abut that

(hmm maybe becuse they are religous maybe do bussnis in religus countrys a way too not lose your mony or build a gated comunity based on those ideas somwhere?)