I love the second person telling her not to use reason. 
What site is that from?
I think it’s time for an intervention. This Bex4Jesus definitely seems like she’s struggling between her rational mind and the nonsense she’s had pounded into her brain. It’s a perfect time to introduce her to a rational morality.
You have to respect her for questioning those things so incisively and have contempt for the b**** who responded with such tripe.
So I registered on the forum, but they closed the topic because there were too many non-Christians posting.
I’m just curious…why do you hang out in Bible forums? :dough:
Second Question:
Can we post a question about whether God can create a mathematical equation so complex that even He cannot solve it or would that be against TOS? 
I also registered, and received an “infraction” for trying to PM Bex4Jesus - most likely it is simply an anti-spam measure. It directed me to post a test message in a forum for moderators. We’ll see how it goes…
The couple of large Christian forums I’ve checked out require people to declare if they’re Christian or not, and they usually have that info next to your name and avatar. So, right off the bat, you’re going to have a tough time if you try to explain your viewpoint as an atheist.
Some of the forums restrict things you can do (like PMing) until you have participated enough: e.g. posted NN times. There was one forum that allowed you to PM people and do some other things (like add a signature) if you got a certain number of “blessings”. Posting was a way to earn blessings, but others could also bless you, but having over some of their blessings.
I registered on a forum like that a year or so ago. I had declared myself to be an atheist, and had joined to ask for some information for a Christian relative. After that, some threads by saner people intrigued me and I figured I might be within the rules to respond politely, and let my signature be the means to more information. Problem was: how to get blessings without having to post too much?
Then it struck me: these are altruistic Christians. The forum had started me out with 5 blessings. So, I simply looked around for 5 sweet sounding female posters and blessed them, exhausting my blessings in the process. It worked! They blessed me back many-fold, and I ended up with the 30 blessings I needed! No false pretenses were used in the making of that signature :dough:
In general, remember that forums are like private property. Respect that, and stick within the rules.
I read in that thread where she can’t turn her brain off. It is telling that her rational faculty is rejecting the irrationality of what she has been taught. There is hope for her yet. If she dosen’t allow these people to convince her to just “believe” she will come to the proper conclusions on her own.
It wouldn’t hurt to have a little nudge from an Objectivist, though. :dough:
It turns out an admin blocked me specifically for labeling myself “not a christian” and trying to PM Bex4Jesus. She believes I’m part of the “atheist group” that spammed that thread originally. I’ve sent a response that I am not connected with them and have no intention of harassing anyone, as she claimed.
They are afraid you’ll lead the sheep astray. They, like the old Soviets, need to build walls to keep thier people in, which is rather telling.
Here is the response I received from that admin. Note the last sentence:
Brian, I will reverse your infraction and you may post on the board. Please read the board rules and the fact that as a non-Christian you are limited to posting in Introductions, Christians Answer, Kicking Back, and Chat to the Moderators.
If you contact the person in the original thread, most likely you will be banned without further warning.
Having no interest in dealing with this forum anymore, I did some simple googling and think I’ve tracked down the individual on facebook. I sent her a message on there. I also let that admin know all of this. :dough:
They are afraid you’ll lead the sheep astray. They, like the old Soviets, need to build walls to keep thier people in, which is rather telling.
I also noticed that there are an awful lot of “tell me what to do” posts on there.
I also received an infraction for PMing Bex4Jesus. It was a rather lengthy message, as well.
Yeah, I hit the back button quick and saved my text to a file. It doesn’t look like the message was sent. I’ll let you know if the person on Facebook responds.
Yeah, I hit the back button quick and saved my text to a file. It doesn’t look like the message was sent. I’ll let you know if the person on Facebook responds.
In the meantime, maybe you can handle this one: http://bibleforums.org/forum/showthread.php?t=151676
:dough:
Bear in mind that, as that forum is privately owned, they have every right to administer it as they see fit, including shutting advocates of reason such as ourselves out, if they so choose.
It would not be good for us to disrespect their property rights in pursuit of our own agenda which, for one, is adamantly in support of property rights.
I agree with Greebo. Be respectful of their rights.
Also, the analogy with the Soviets is incorrect: this is not about building walls to keep people out. We do exactly the same thing here. We would not tolerate Christians coming here and trying to convert people.
Bear in mind that, as that forum is privately owned, they have every right to administer it as they see fit, including shutting advocates of reason such as ourselves out, if they so choose.
It would not be good for us to disrespect their property rights in pursuit of our own agenda which, for one, is adamantly in support of property rights.
Of course. Nobody here has said otherwise. I told that admin that I disagree with their practices but will respect them as it is their right. I then told them that even though they would not allow me to contact her through their site, I still found that person through Facebook. :dough: