PrimalScream Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Here I am. This is what I think. This is what I feel. These are my gut reactions, my instincts, my mystic responses. The first moment I saw Ayn Rand's picture I could sense she was a wound up bundle of nerves and fear. Her philosophy seems the be the natural outcome of such a being. Generalization? Maybe. But you have to understand, I'm one of those mystics who relies on the perception of energy as a direct flow. Instinctive knowing. Silent knowledge. Feels good to have a monopoly on the truth though, doesn't it? Makes you feel kinda righteous. Like you and yours are the only one who's right, and the rest of the world.. well it's a manifestation of the destroyer, right? Fine. Then I'm the destroyer. I don't know what's right. I don't claim to have precises knowledge of what is objective truth. I look outside and beyond reason for the full meaning of my experence. I don't take shortcuts to the truth. I am a warrior. And if any still remember the language, that which is connected to the primal aspect of self, I'll listen. But if you just want to spout some self-righteous defense of your unauthentic beliefs.. well.. don't expect me to grant you the honor of acknowleging your self-proclaimed existence. If you truly lived in a state of objective reality, you'd have no need to convince me or to defend yourself. That is all I have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielshrugged Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 If you truly lived in a state of objective reality, you'd have no need to convince me or to defend yourself. I have no such need. If you admit that you reject reason, what would be the point of reasoning with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Rexton Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Whatever you have to say is meaningless, inconsequential, and unwanted here. This forum is not for the likes of you. Leave at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimalScream Posted June 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Make me. I wont go away just because you want it. You'll have to "force" me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meganfiala Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 This is pathetic, what is this 2nd grade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimalScream Posted June 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 You know what.. you're right.. I'm wasting my time here. But at least I tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimble Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 maybe you could think clearer if you werent doing this all day: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimble Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 So are you a morman? Or is that being presumptuous? Maybe a Johovahs witness? They like to come to places where they arent welcome, just like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwakeAndFree Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Make me. I wont go away just because you want it. You'll have to "force" me. Well, I didn't ban you - but I did take away your posting rights. So keep quite. As for calling reason a shortcut to truth... It is. Faith, however, or "instinct"or whatever you want to call it, is a shortcut to falsehood. And you are a shortcut to a headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betsy Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Primal, I can see why you're screaming. Living like that must really HURT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshRyan Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 ...That is all I have to say. It never is, is it? Thanks for removing his posting priveleges Eran. How do these people find us? And don't they have anything better to do than crash our message board? I just don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimble Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 no they come to insult, because they think they can "convert" some of us to their more "logical" way of thinking: like the one who listens to trees for all his knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinorityOfOne Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 See, this is a prime example of what I was talking about, GC. Why do we keep threads like this in the archive? (Though it really would be great for the "hate mail" department.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwakeAndFree Posted June 26, 2004 Report Share Posted June 26, 2004 Maybe GC just didn't have time for it yet? I prefered to let him do the deleting. Anyway this jerk PrimalScream sent me a personal e-mail with the same kind of nonsense he was trying here. My spam blocker will catch him from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidV Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 See, this is a prime example of what I was talking about, GC. Why do we keep threads like this in the archive? (Though it really would be great for the "hate mail" department.) Agreed, on both counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manavmehta Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 Most of what Primal posted is meaningless rambling, but I can't resist responding to one of his statements. I feel that this point needs to be clarified. Primal seems to have implied through one of his posts that our moderators revoking his posting priveliges is tantamount to an act of "force". He seems to imply, that in order to get rid of him, objectivists must necessarily defy their own code of values. Primal - in the treatise on "Man's Rights" in Ayn Rand's book The Virtue of Selfishness, she talks about something called "property rights". This means, that if I find your views repugnant, as I am sure that the people who own this forum do, I have a perfectly legimitate right to deny you the use of my property for airing your views. As far as I am concerned, you can use someone's else property to air your views (someone who is not repulsed by them), but I don't have to put up with the spectacle of you using my property to launch insults against me or to condemn my deepest beliefs and convictions. The denial of the use of my property constitutes my exercise of a right granted to me by the constitution of the United States, and cannot be considered an act of "force". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimble Posted June 27, 2004 Report Share Posted June 27, 2004 so its your forum now eh? Just joking. Dont reply to that. I know what you mean in your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capitalism Forever Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 And don't they have anything better to do than crash our message board? I think this one might be an S&M type who gets aroused at the thought of being banned from a forum. I mean, he's almost begging us to ban him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimble Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 yea how everyone loves a little S and M. O wait maybe thats just me. HAHAHA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSabbath Posted June 28, 2004 Report Share Posted June 28, 2004 What's the difference between Troll McTroll here and the Kantian who came here that I identified as a troll straight away. And do people insist on trying to reason with trolls? It drives me up the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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