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China's willingness? What does that mean in the context of 'free trade' and the 'trader principle' as they apply to individual action?

Why not just benefit from China's willingness to work harder for less? Why not let America take advantage of the lack of regulations?

Taggart helped organize the government policy that created the looting.

The key is to define and identify what an objectively undesirable person is. The bottom line is "who" will harm others voluntarily or involuntarily. If you can prove simply believing in a fairytale, the first testament of the bible creates a mysoginist, since they believe that Eve was the cause of all of our ills, then we should not allow jews or christains or Muslim people to come into the country (to protect our women). If Islamic people were as "violent" and culturally attractive as people think, then yes, we should not let them in. But is the Islamic culture that attractive? Evidence shows it is the other way around. Our values and our ways are far more attractive. We are the threat to them. One can identify ways that each of these religious communities has harmed or helped "our" society. But the argument hinges on knowing who is weaponizing their religion. Each religion or even ideology has interpretations that are benign or "diseased". The idea that all jews are good/bad, all Christians are peaceful, or all moslems want to kill you is fantasy. Some are, and some are not. It is the particular one crossing the border that has to have their mind x-rayed to see if it is of the violent/sick/fraudulent kind or not. We can have a completely closed border, no one comming in. We won't have outside competition comming in. We will not have outsider beneifts either. That is what the nationalists prefer. What is the right of entry that someone has? It is the right of the innocent. Collective punishment harms the innocent. If we become a society that treats the criminal and the non criminal in the same manner, ones liberty diminishes. There is a similarity to the argument for lockdowns. At what point do you lock the society? At what point do the unvaccinated become "the threat"? It seems it is based on statistics. Or is it morality? Should an unvaccinated person be treated as if they are sick with COVID-19? Should a moslem be treated as if they are violent? If it is okay to treat all the unvaccinated people as if they have the disease, then yes, all moslems are violent.

Yep, technology advances.

Yes, that is how we develop both during a lifetime and as a society. My first job was sort of like a paper route but with flyers. I don't do that anymore.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2022/10/10/lgbtq-faith-communities-dearborn-hamtramck-libraries-banned-books/10353638002/

That Hatian has virtually no chance at being granted legal status. The waiting period is huge. I would make the waiting period be however long it takes to verify you aren't a violent criminal.

"Control". In other words, legal immigration. In other words: what's the problem?

Material production begets material production.

Do you think that innovation costs net jobs? It used to be that it took 18 people to farm for 20. Now 1 farms for many. What happened to all of those "farming" jobs? Should we ban the farm tractor? Think about all the jobs we could "create."

Why would coding remain an economic value? I think coders are going to become trans immigrant Haitians, sooner rather than later.

That is how it goes. While the Haitian is delivering groceries for 20x what he made in Haiti, he could be studying how to learn code or sending his kids to school to learn code, so that his generation will be better off than he was. Or we can leave him in Haiti where is best bet is picking garbage or starvation.

Which part ? Do ideals have parts separable ?

A little bit of capitalism.

Lol, I would tell the Haitian to learn to code so he could pay someone for delivering his groceries, better yet I would have an AI code and make autonomous vehicles that deliver.

"If Haiti got its act together like China has, then it too could be an economic powerhouse." What makes manufacture in China such a powerhouse of economic growth?

Open borders doesn't mean "no borders." I would have control in terms of keeping out criminals and identifying people that come and go.

I am careful to distinguish immigration from migration. Or, controlled borders from open borders. I suppose you mean the latter with "open immigration"?

So when that Haitian comes to America, what does he have to offer? He has the ability to save productive people's time. If he were doing grocery deliveries in Haiti, who's time is he saving? If he does grocery delivery in America, now he has the chance to save the time of some very productive people. How many Haitians bill their time out at $350/hour? How many Americans do?

In Haiti he is hardly producing anything. What Haitian goods do you buy? If Haiti got its act together like China has, then it too could be an economic powerhouse. But it hasn't. So those people in Haiti are trapped with no opportunity. China is making new millionaires every week. Open immigration is simply the free labor market working.

If you program computers and command $350 per hour, taking an hour or two out of your day to go grocery shopping ends up being a loss for you of $330-$680 if you can get delivery for $20. Or, if that doesn't do it for you, try building your own car. You could spend a lifetime and not have a car as good as a used Park Avenue that you can trade for $2000.

Caplan, briefly https://youtu.be/l5OSWEF29VY?si=TbPM-rKW2VVOrPBU

So what does the data say? Do we have a big radical Islam problem in the US due to immigration? Self interest is certainly the primary reason for open immigration, but it is also a question of freedom and human rights. https://www.cato.org/blog/trump-wrong-muslim-immigration-reducing-radical-islamism https://www.betonit.ai/p/western_civilizhtml?utm_source=publication-search https://openborders.info/blog/islamophobic-case-open-borders/

Every available or newly available restaurant represents a less cheap alternative to eating, paying for grocery deliveries makes getting groceries more expensive, competition in the grocery bringing 'business' will work to lowering the price of delivery but it can never be zero, so always a net negative to an individual's capacity for capital accumulation. How is it that guy in Haiti gets $2/day, or manufacture in China is a better business model for domestic US businesses that require manufacture?