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theestevearnold

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  1. Rights is freedom of action in social context. It presupposes existence of free will and conceptual mind. Advocates of animal rights see no difference between animals and people. Since they cannot bring up animals to the level of people, they effectively degrade people to the level of animals. The notion of animal rights is another assault on mind.

    Amen, Brother.

    If a man selling meat gives his property (animals) "free range", &/or slaughters his property in the least painful way possible, the men in the market use their dollars to "vote" on the issue.

  2. I'm afraid that your posts must be treated as if nothing is said

    4) pretend something is true (for drama, gaming...), but not really act as if it was true

    But you can't fully think something is true and at the same time fully think it isn't true, so I think this would be #4.

    Amen, brother.

    AR proved why I should treat "God exists" as if nothing was said, and refrain from debate.

    This thread is still good for discussing nuances of belief and the evil of blind belief.

    #4 option is an example of an appropriate (temporary) willful suspension of disbelief I can use to enjoy certain movies. It does not introduce logical fallicies into my epistemology because I know it's not reality.

  3. Government, by definition; initiates the use of force to earn revenue. Therefore the concept of government or the state is not compatible whatsoever with the philosophy of Objectivism. Most Objectivists contradict themselves by saying they believe in a minimal government yet advocate one of the most fundamental axioms of the Objectivist philosophy; the non-initiation of force. It doesn't work like that.

    Wrong. A moral government should not initiate force against its citizens. You've accepted that it's okay, but it's not. The US had no income tax for a long time. There are ways government can earn revenue without force.

  4. There are laws against libel, filing a false police report, & purgery. All of which are not fraud (have no gain of a material value).

    So non-fraud types of deception, lies, false pretenses, misleading info, or whatever you wanna call it, is protected against by the US justice system. So it's not outside government's current (proper) role.

    Lying to a person to gain a value is wrong. Sex is a value (whether it's material or not is up for debate).

    Should there be no legal avenue of justice for a woman who was deceived into having sex?

    If so, would a woman be justified in at least slapping her victimizer?

  5. Please fix your definition, or it becomes a red herring confusing the debate.

    Material values include goods and services. Not just goods. Sex can qualify as a service, but in this context it might not, so I will not use "fraud" anymore when referring to obtaining the value (sex) by deceipt.

    The courts place a monetary value on emotional distress, but I'm not saying that someone who caused another mental "harm" initiated force.

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