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  1. I think what is misleading here is that the woman appears in her temperament, to be offering an honest, polite opinion. In contrast, Ayn Rand does not react politely. But what is worse - telling someone the worst insults in a polite way (like that woman did), or telling them openly, without the pretence of an honorable discussion that they are unworthy of a discussion?

    If you look only at the appearance of tones, you get the wrong impression. But when you consider closely the content of what the woman was saying, you get a different picture, and you can better understand why Ayn Rand replied the way she did.

    What warranted such reaction from AR's side was not just that there was no real question asked. Essentially, the woman was telling her, in a self-righteous, allegedly civilized tone that Ayn Rand's philosophy is worthless. "Once I was part of your cult, but now I grew up and I know better, and I just came here to tell you this".

    Now, every person who has some self-esteem, and understand what is actually being said, will not take it quietly, given some rationality of other members of the audience. In this case, regarding this woman as a mere disinterest would be pretending she is better than what she is.

    Such a reply would still give the woman the appearance of an honest, decent person.

    I think if you keep in mind what the woman actually says (and not her tone, which is intentionally misleading), it is a lot easier to understand the hostility.

    [And why is the tone misleading? Because if you wish to kick somebody in the gut, you don't tell him at the same time, that you're doing it for his own good, and he should take it in a civilized manner. Instead, you face the truth that there is nothing civilized about it].

    If you remember what she said in the VoS, you must also remember that she said that she is not referring to those who may feel uncomfortable with what she says, but will still choose to think and understand it. She was only referring to those who let their fear control their actions and choose their psychological safety over the truth.

    The people who run away from her philosophy will do so regardless of how nice she is. A person seeking the truth does not give it up because of social acceptance or the lack of it.

    One thing that bothers me here, is that the one person whose emotions and well-being you never consider here - is Ayn Rand. For what purpose is she suppose to tolerate willful stupidity, hostility and insults? For the purpose of helping those people get better? This is turning the other cheek.

    Perhaps your conclusion are coming from good intention of wanting people to be well, but I completely disagree with your conclusions. One should only be nice and helpful so long as one is respected enough and the person receiving the help has earned it.

    Right on target post, Ifat. Thank You.

  2. Here are a few more ideas for signs.

    You Raised Our Tax

    You Broke Our Backs

    You Get The Sacks!

    Bailing Out Failure

    By Taxing Success

    Aborts The Savior

    Of Happiness.

    Drink and Drive;

    or Think and Keep Alive.

    Shirk, Whine and Lose,

    or Work Hard and Cruise.

    I Am Right To Love My life;

    Are You A Right One Too?

    If You Lead,

    Who Will You Follow?

    No More Time

    In Self-pity To Wallow.

    You Are An Individual,

    You Are Reading This.

    Love Your Effort,

    Love Your Focus,

    Love You Mind.

  3. You and khaight are on the same track and I agree. Check my answer to him and see what you think. I looked at what I wrote and cut it down to five statements, each less than a line long. There might be one or two more needed to cover salient points of Objectivism.

    I like some of your ideas for bumper stickers. A variety of approaches makes an effective campaign. Bumper stickers and tee shirts are most effective when they have an edge to them. They invite more commentary that way.

    Let's keep up this exchange of ideas. Somewhere in the Forum I would still like to see a place where we can park our cards and tracts, etc, so anyone who wants them can download them and print them out. ES

    I think Kaight is right about a focus on reason, but I wouldn't exclude more emotional means. Variety can be very effective and, as not everyone is at the same level of development, what may not strike a chord with one person may with another. I know that when I was younger and was writing letters to the editor I would sometiimes not send one in because I thought it was _not the perfect way_ to present Objectivism. But that kind of self-regulation can kill one's enthusiasm and inhibit creative thinking. The thing is--to fight for your values the best you can whenever you can, not to wait for the moment when you've got it all right.

  4. A few more.

    Evil Is Initiation Of Force

    Honesty Is Work

    Work Is Honesty

    Taxes Are?

    Life:

    Don't Give It Away;

    Don't Give It Up;

    Don't Give.

    Live

    Thinkers Think And Do;

    Wishers Screw you.

    Bailing Failure

    Drowns Success

    Bail A Fool's Children

    And Drown Your Own

    Fascizing The Banks?

    Fascizing America?

    Nationalizing Fascist Bastards.

  5. Or, to make a great bumper sticker:

    Individual rights? Yes. Group rights? No!

    No one has the right to take your money from you.

    Government, get back! Get Back! Get Back!

    or,

    My life is mine, not yours, brother!

    or,

    No one has the right to make you give or do.

    Trade is the only moral action to pursue.

    Government must leave your living up to you.

    or,

    My right to my life---Yo!

    My right to my property---Yo!

    Those who would take it are evil---So!

  6. [

    I appreciate your interpreting my interest as the fervor of discovery. It is more the fervor of rekindled interest. I have considered myself an Objectivist for quite a few years now. It is precisely the lack of movement over the years in making Objectivism something more than an intellectual curiosity that spurs me to stir up some dialogue, and perhaps some action.

    I think my analogy of Ten Commandments was misplaced. Perhaps something more akin to a creed is what I had in mind. Miss Rand managed to get the essence of it into four letters. Of course it took several thousands of pages to explain the significance of those four letters.

    In attempting to explain Objectivism to friends, I wrote a short credo I entitled I BELIEVE. It distills what I think to be the essence of Objectivism into a handful of simple statements. I had intended to post it at some point because I am certain that it is incomplete and needs some salient points added. Please make a suggestion if you see something missing. Here's what I have so far:

    ________________________________________________

    I BELIEVE

    The rights of the individual are paramount above all others.

    Man has the inalienable right to his life.

    As a natural extension of that right, he has the right to that part of his life spent in productive work and the right to own the property he may have accrued by that work.

    No man has a claim on the life of another man.

    Therefore, any transactions among men must be voluntary.

    Governments are institutions set up by men to protect their rights. In the interest of civil order, men convey to the government the authority to use force in defense of the rights of individuals.

    - Military forces defend these rights from other countries.

    - Police forces defend these rights from other individuals within the country.

    - Courts defend these rights and adjudicate breaches of contracts and disagreements between individuals.

    Men cannot convey to their government authority they themselves do not possess.

    (Ladies, please forgive the chauvinism. The above was written for a male audience. It, of course, can be changed.)

    _______________________________________________________________________

    Something on the order of this is what I have in mind for a business card-sized summary and a small tract that gives the basics of Objectivism. There is very little, if anything, that someone would disagree with in the above statements. This is what I mean by emphasizing the positive.

    I agree with your assertion to let Objectivism sell itself to a point. Once someone has had their curiosity piqued, Objectivism has a powerful message. However, my point is still valid; there simply isn't enough effort being made to offer Objectivism as an alternative guide for living one's life.

    I think now is a good time to be more assertive. Most rational people (as well as Conservatives. The two aren't necessarily inclusive or exclusive) are appalled at the rapid turn toward Socialism at the end of the Bush administration and the beginning of the Obama one. Christian churches are drifting away from sectarian dogma to a more secular view.

    I'm not suggesting we go door to door with a version of Watchtower. But, to expand on some of the suggestions I made in the original post.

    1. We can expand on the little credo I started to include the basic tenets of Objectivism stated as simply as possible. If they can fit on a business card, all the better. They can be handed out to anyone who shows an interest, with the link to this site and any others that might interest them.

    2. Here on this site, we can design a three-fold tract that state the basics of Objectivism, gives some salient quotes from Any Rand, gives links to websites, and recommends books. Such a tract is basically two typewritten pages written in three columns in the landscape format. Any one of us can print 30 copies of page one, turn the paper over and print 30 copies of page two and spend a few minutes folding them. Voila!! Thirty tracts to leave in a rack in the student union, on a table in the doctor's office, wherever. Or, let Kinko do it.

    I know there are better ideas than these, but it's late here and I'm tired. Manana, Amigos , ES

    Ed, you might cut down the verbiage of I Believe to:

    Individual rights? Yes. Group rights? No.

    A man's right to his life---so!

    His right to his property---so!

    Those who would take it are evil---true!

    No one has a right of power over other men---true!

    No one has the right to make you act or do.

    Trade is the only moral transaction to pursue.

    Government must leave your living up to you.

  7. Very High Midas Day

    Oh, Very High Midas Day,

    Now you are here,

    Clothed in prosperity,

    Best of the year.

    Armfuls of laughter,

    Lipfuls of light,

    Eyes in affirmance

    Of everything bright.

    Ribbons are spreading and

    Trees are a-glow;

    Splendid the setting

    Of Midas-Time show.

    Down every avenue

    Silver bells chime,

    While choirs of drink-songs

    Clink them in time.

    Dollar-signs stand on

    Rooftops for glee---

    Red, green and gold ones,

    And many swing free!

    And Santas are shooting

    From chimney to chim

    (Helpers called Backpack,

    Vigor and Vim).

    Here, a piano

    Rolls to a door;

    There, a mink stole

    Lets hands go explore.

    Here, a convertabile,

    Flashy and fast,

    While lust-dust of diamonds

    Everywhere's cast.

    Peacefully beautiful,

    Wholesome and rare,

    Very High Midas Day

    Men made you fair.

    Happy and satisfied,

    Filled to the top,

    All you could ever be

    Never will stop.

    Oh, all over town

    There's a soft glowing fire

    Of joys made real

    For human desire.

    Oh Very High Midas Day,

    Face of our worth---

    Proud of Prosperity,

    Merchants of earth!

    ___________________________

    Brian Faulkner

  8. From the Objectivist stand point what is the point of living? I mean if we are here accidently why pursue something that has the chance of ending up in misery? Did Ayn Rand die happy after the death of her husband?

    A certain kind of life (of your own choosing) can be a point----but only if you are alive. What would be the point of being dead? To whom? No one is there.

  9. Born Again

    O Happy Town, that leaps to life again,

    With cars and trucks and people on the go,

    You have no need of base complaining men

    Who hold your triumph but a hollow show.

    Nay, vile they say it is, your tow'ring course,

    And must be stricken down for wolves and bears,

    And mindless acts of Mother Nature's force;

    Yea, mindless---bent design of all their prayers.

    Run forward, leap, and higher, stronger, grow;

    Exult with pride that you're the best on earth!

    Roar out your motors, sing along each street,

    Disdain the pits that dare to pull you low

    And climb above the clouds with all your worth.

    The weekend's past and 'born again" is sweet!

    ___________________________________________

    Brian Faulkner

  10. When All Seems Hopeless

    When all seems hopeless as a down-set sun

    And future days are grey with shadow-mites

    Of some bad man our President become;

    While many countrymen are blind to see

    How they are lead away from human heights

    Down into foreasts dark with savages

    Who scream with glee the rights of savages

    To scream, but not live, and men not be;

    When this seems overwhelming in my mind

    I turn about and take your book in hand,

    Then turn the pages till man's hope I find.

    It is not made of feathers or of sand,

    But truth's hard-builded walls that bind---

    The vallied vault of the golden Rand.

    ________________________________________

    Brian Faulkner

  11. It's Nice To Be Here

    Here, above the land, I take your hand;

    Here, where all is open, lit with sun,

    Upon a peak of rock we looking stand.

    Together we have climbed and reached and won,

    And now the earth rolls outward from our feet,

    Or does it gather up to us, complete?

    Your hands are scraped and scratched like mine;

    Your cheeks are very roughly brushed up too,

    Yet you are more than beautiful to see

    And all the hills about must climb to you.

    "It's nice to be here" are the words divine,

    And I am here with you, and you with me,

    Where far-off mountains gleam and shine

    And twitterings of birds sail out so free,

    While on a peak of rock we looking stand.

    _________________________________________

    Brian Faulkner

  12. O Holy Pig

    I went to Hell

    And felt the flames

    Of all those whirling,

    Swirling dames.

    I played at cards

    And threw the dice---

    No more snake eyes,

    That was nice.

    I filled my belly

    Full with meat,

    Ate every cake

    And every sweet,

    But when I slaked

    My last desire,

    The Devil threw me

    In the fire.

    "Ouch!" I cried,

    And "Oh, it's hot!

    Why must i

    Be in this pot?"

    "Do be still,"

    The Devil said,

    "You've had your fun

    And you're well-fed.

    "God needs smell

    Your sacrifice,

    Smell it once

    And smell it twice.

    "He must thrill

    To hear you cry

    When you ever

    Almost die.

    "Die, or fry,

    He cannot tell;

    Only loves

    To smell the smell.

    "Piggy He,

    And piggy blind;

    Gluttony

    Is God designed.

    "That is why

    Your fall is sweet---

    Kicked to Hell

    By God's pig feet."

    "Ouch!" I cried,

    And "Oh, the pain!

    Who can save me

    From the slain?"

    Jesus came,

    Filled with teeth,

    Sharpened them

    On my belief;

    Ate me whole,

    Devoured all;

    All my bits

    Too small to fall.

    Jesus loves me,

    THis I know,

    For the mindless

    Tell me so.

    Little bits

    To him are big;

    And I'm a bit---

    O Holy Pig!

  13. Independence

    Do it yourself, depend on no other;

    No one's your slave, nor brother nor mother.

    Work out a plan, stand up a man;

    Earn what you get and never forget

    Depend is a vice,

    Depend is not nice,

    Depend is the source of downward course

    To dark and empty night.

    Independence is the only way of light.

    Independence will flick your switch to bright.

    If you'd be wholly free

    Then self-sufficient be;

    If you'd live unafraid

    Then work and earn and trade;

    If you'd not waste your time

    Then thinking is no crime;

    If you'd not fall to fate

    Then make your reason great.

    If you would top a hill,

    If you would cross a stream,

    Then climb with your own will

    And build on your own scheme.

    If you would lag at ease

    Till all comes "somehow" true,

    You're lying with the fleas

    Till some cross dog bites you.

    So, depend on no other, do it yourself;

    Stand up a man and work out a plan;

    Earn what you get----don't ever forget!

    Then sing free, "Independence!"

    _______________________________________

    Brian Faulkner

  14. Years ago I read a supremely excellent poem by Joseph Haldeman about, of all things, cryogenic suspension. It was published in Omni magazine, which is now defunct. It contains one of my favorite lines:

    "A billion suns have risen since my birth

    I'm old, but still too young for ash or earth."

    Very good poem, not many people can create a meaningful sonnet that long.

    I'm also extremely fond of the cowboy poems of Badger Clark, one of which was quoted by Ayn Rand in CUI:

    The Westerner

    My fathers sleep on the sunrise plains,

    And each one sleeps alone.

    Their trails may dim to the grass and rains,

    For I choose to make my own.

    I lay proud claim to their blood and name,

    But I lean on no dead kin;

    My name is mine, for the praise or scorn,

    And the world began when I was born

    And the world is mine to win.

    They built high towns on their old log sills,

    Where the great, slow rivers gleamed,

    But with new, live rock from the savage hills

    I'll build as they only dreamed.

    The smoke scarce dies where the trail camp

    lies,

    Till the rails glint down the pass;

    The desert springs into fruit and wheat

    And I lay the stones of a solid street

    Over yesterday's untrod grass.

    I waste no thought on my neighbor's birth

    Or the way he makes his prayer.

    I grant him a white man's room on earth

    If his game is only square.

    While he plays it straight I'll call him mate;

    If he cheats I drop him flat.

    Old class and rank are a wornout lie,

    For all clean men are as good as I,

    And a king is only that.

    I dream no dreams of a nurse-maid state

    That will spoon me out my food.

    A stout heart sings in the fray with fate

    And the shock and sweat are good.

    From noon to noon all the earthly boon

    That I ask my God to spare

    Is a little daily bread in store,

    With the room to fight the strong for more,

    And the weak shall get their share.

    The sunrise plains are a tender haze

    And the sunset seas are gray,

    But I stand here, where the bright skies blaze

    Over me and the big today.

    What good to me is a vague "maybe"

    Or a mournful "might have been,"

    For the sun wheels swift from morn to morn

    And the world began when I was born

    And the world is mine to win.

    To see more of his poems, go to http://www.cowboypoetry.com/badger.htm#Westerner

    These are great, Janet. Thanks for posting. The first, above, almost immediately set my mind a-going, thus;

    The only stars that shot out at my birth

    Were my two hands---to clasp the best of earth.

    Then, as I get carried away,

    A billion times the earth has circled round

    And still the spring of life's not fully wound.

    The hour hand of man has just begun

    And Reason, with its minutemen, does run.

    Excuse me, Jennifer.

  15. commercial by Nike played before the 18th hole during the final round of the US Open last week. Tiger needed a birdie to force a playoff in the tournament and got it. As a quick summary, the commercial features a few lines from an old interview with Earl Woods, Tiger's dad, who passed away a few years ago. I liked the commercial so much I wanted to share it. The first time I saw it I got goosebumps. Anyone who watches, please share your thoughts...

    That's great. Thanks.

  16. The word God denotes an aspect of reality which can be misunderstood. It does not cease to be a valid aspect of reality. So what does the word "God" denote? It denotes existance, as existance. The potential for an entity to exist, so to speak. Look, a human being is a huge collection of cells, which are a huge collection of atoms, which are a huge collection of subatomic particules, which we at some point just call "energy". This "energy", is "God". The "Universe" is "God's" "body", in a sense, when someone says "God" what they really mean is "The Universe" as "The Universe". Which does not mean they understand it. False beliefs regarding "The Universe" are not indicative of "The Universe" not existing.

    The word "God" can also denote another aspect of reality, namely, beings with great power. Now, that doesn't mean a particular being exists, in fact. You can dream up a person, yet people exist.

    A "god" is a supernatural (thus, nonexistent) being. To arbitrarily capitalize the "g" and make it "G" does not create a unique thing in reality. This simpleton attempt to create something out of nothing "works" for those who wish the wishes (gods) of their minds to be regarded as real and having power over existence. The man who has surrendered, or never developed, his reason, has no power over his life---its meaning, its happiness---and sets up this all-powerful being, this God, as something to worship, but never to reach.

  17. Sacredized

    The rain came playing down the gray sky

    And dancing lashed each passerby.

    Some, voices joined to the boisterous noise

    And laughed and danced and ran like little boys.

    The rain came swaying through the great trees,

    Branch on branch was dashed with ease,

    And each wet leaf was set a-sway

    With silvery tips a-lit so gay.

    The rain lay chaste on the naked ground,

    Its panting past cast not a sound.

    The young sun sprung way high o'er mounts,

    Which tumbled some in bubbling founts.

    The lake is razor-rate, sharp and great,

    A sheer clean mirror in keen clear state.

    The dark tall trees around that are

    Frame beauty in this storm-built star.

    It waits the face of brave bright maid,

    And manly hands all unafraid,

    To be baptized by meaning much

    And sacredized by human touch.

    __________________________________

    Brian Faulkner

  18. Here are three poems which I've written in the past week.

    Old-Time Fighting Song (with a debt to Ayn Rand for the last line)

    That man whose grasp of spear

    Holds not one ounce of fear,

    But reddest pounds of right

    For hurling into flight

    The fact that he is good

    To fight the fight he should

    Against man's evil foe---

    The lowest of the low---

    Oh, may his aim be keen,

    And may his throw be clean

    To strike between the eyes

    The men of hateful lies,

    That they may parted be

    From all we hear and see,

    And standing, spirits strong,

    The men whose eyes are song,

    Whose laughter lights the earth

    With solemn, gladdest worth,

    Yea, standing up, I say,

    Like shouldering month of May,

    When all the hills up high

    Thrust buds into the sky,

    And storms, they envy not

    This flowery, happy lot,

    And planets almost dance

    To see lost man advance,

    For where the hero goes

    Ebb back the old-time woes,

    As God is set aflame

    And faith goes down in shame,

    And chains of brotherhood

    Are stricken off for good.

    Now only this is clear---

    I am, I think, I steer.

    _________________________________

    Gone For A Week

    Ah, you are not here, my diamond darling,

    My ever shooting, radiating star,

    My rose-petaled sun,

    My swaying, dancing song,

    My ship come into shore,

    My many pounds of gold,

    My one unique flower,

    My highest hill,

    My soul.

    Ah, you are not here,

    And the new year seems so far,

    So sere, so still, so very cold.

    Oh, but the light of you lingers,

    And the minutes run on up to you,

    And I am ready now to leap,

    But the hours creep,

    Am ready to fly,

    But can only sigh,

    Could sing,

    But I cannot sing.

    Your name is on my lips,

    Waiting your breath

    To burn it to a burning brand,

    And the storming of your hands

    Is in my hands.

    Ah! You are not here!

    ____________________________

    The Gift of Cyrano

    For her whose mind is set aglow

    By reading hero Cyrano,

    May all her dreams come shining true

    Whatever paths she seeks them through,

    And may her courage never fail,

    How strong each storm, how stiff each gale,

    And by the light of reason's glow

    Find her own living Cyrano.

    But may the end that's in the play---

    Of lovers wholly cut away

    Before sun Joy has showered bliss---

    In life turn into lasting kiss,

    And Cyran's spirit shine so bright

    That farthest stars seem hers by right.

    And so may reading prove its worth

    By granting heaven more on earth,

    Inspiring her to hands-on deeds

    For all she wants and all she needs.

    Rostand the master a great play made;

    She'll grasp its law---Live unafraid.

    _____________________________________

    Brian Faulkner

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