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McCains class rank in College was 894 out of 899 students in College BTW for anybody interested.
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I've worked at a number of large companies over the years and I currently have several of them as clients. Every single one of them bends over backwards to find, hire and retain minority workers.
What large companies have you worked with because the large majority of people I know that work for those companies are still white. Which is fine but you all make it seem that black people are overrunning everything. The reason networks like BET and Ebony magazine exist is because the mainstream mainly cators to the majority which are white people. There are jobs for black actors and models here in there but that is not mainstream. Also if you are white try reading an Ebony magazine or watching BET, I bet it would be wierd seeing all those black people, that is how many black people feel when they read one of those "mainstream" magazines or watch NBC, ABC, CBS etc.
Secondly Bush wasn't a good choice for president I feel. Too me he got in the White House only because of his name. Bush isn't the brightest guy and he has some experience but he has still made a mess of things. He has people hating tax cuts. All of a sudden though one black guy is taken seriously for president out of the whole history of the United States and it is World War 3 for some of you all. Ayn Rand didn't get her way all the time during electrons and the world hasn't blown itself up. The world has been going to end since forever!!!
Another thing that I have to mention is that it was Obama's white mother who taught Obama about his African heritage and not his black father. Nothing is wrong with that at all I feel but she has been described as an extreme leftist so I'm guessing that is not all she had taught Obama. You can read about her on Wikepedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham
If any of you think that there should be a unity of opinion just because someone is white you are wrong.
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Assuming this is true, and all other things are equal, and no other factors are relevant, then the reality is obvious. Any company which hires a plethora of blacks will make money hand-over-fist since clearly today's market is flooded with an available high-quality black labor pool which, in turn, is hideously under-utilized. This is a golden opportunity for businesses to make a fortune -- via perceptive and wise hiring decisions as implied above.
That study didn't say that blacks were superior just because they are black in anyway at all. It was used to find out more about racism in the job market.
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Shyboy -- I'm completely unaware of what you're referring to. By my judgment, American blacks are stunning worse than whites in ethnic bigotry terms. There's simply no analogue to black leaders like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Maybe 100 years ago -- but not today. Blacks are routinely praised, in society and respectable circles, as being superior to whites, personally and culturally. And this supposed racial superiority has been written into law -- especially regarding education and vocation -- for over 40 years.
It is only for entry level positions but here is a study that shows white convicts are as likely to get a job from a white employer as blacks.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/cchr/pdf/race_report_web.pdf
http://www.dmiblog.com/archives/2007/09/wh...kely_to_be.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m135...08/ai_n15681393
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I don't know what white people you know or have been talking to, but I would say the vast majority of whites I know recognize the racism that many blacks in this country practice.
And many blacks know the racism that many white people practice in this country...
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Even assuming, arguendo, that this is true, it says absolutely nothing about causality as opposed to mere coincidence; it offers no facts pertaining to the nature of Republican presidents and recessions that would even remotely suggest a causal connection. In other words, your professor's assertion is worthless. I suppose the mediocre education you'll receive will also serve as an example of what doesn't work.
That is true but people can say that about Reagan's policies as well. People just say Reaganomics worked with no explanation at all. I've searched and I see it on this board as well and that goes off without a hitch.
In fact, in my studies, one project I took on was to research what the final effects of Reaganomics were, and after reading tons of articles, looking at economic indices...there is a total hung jury. Some can say it worked because the economy recovered after it was implemented, others can make a case that the economy recovered despite it. Too many interdependent factors, some influenced by the policy, some not, and so there's a lot of guesswork and no clear way to separate all causes and effects for a clear case.
So yeah, concluding that only Republicans lead to recessions just because that is what has happened so far is a bad argument.
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Well if I were to play devils advocate I would say that I heard Obama say,First we create the problem, then we solve it, eh?Unfortunately, the choice of a president is not merely an example-setting teaching exercise, but has real-world ramifications. The evidence so far suggests that Obama is an ill-educated, ill-prepared, ill-experienced disaster-in-waiting. For example, we know from the feckless approach of Bill Clinton which culminated in the disaster of 9/11, what the tragic consequences of a weak, foolhardy foreign policy would be, and the evidence suggests that Obama would pursue precisely that course once again. I suppose the thousands who died in the 9/11 attacks also serve as an example of what doesn't work. Apparently, we didn't learn our lesson, did we?
“no president should ever hesitate to use force – unilaterally if necessary, not only to protect ourselves . . . when we are attacked, but also to protect our vital interests”
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Sen. Obama cited new economic forces to explain what appears like a return to an older-style big-government Democratic platform skeptical of market forces. "Globalization and technology and automation all weaken the position of workers," he said, and a strong government hand is needed to assure that wealth is distributed more equitably.
From the front page of today's Wall Street Journal. This guy is making it very clear what he's going to do to us.
Well if he fails miserably like some of you all say he will, then people can use his views as an example of what doesn't work.
A Professor of mine told me today that only after Republican Presidents do we get a recession, I looked into it and sure enough it has been true so far.
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Ron Paul talks a little about Obama here.
In Obama 's defense I heard him say that he is going to ignore medical marijuana.
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Are you kidding me? Of course it is! Have you ever had a girl look at herself in the mirror and ask you, "Sweety, does this dress make me look fat?" You absolutely must say, "No, you look fine," regardless of the reality. If you say, "Yes," man, you're in for a world of suffering.
Well if they asked for my opinion I would voice it because 9 times out of 10 they would want you to be honest.
It is not nice if I go up to a total stranger though and say "That dress makes you look fat" my input is not wanted and I really don't think I would care all that much too say something. It would get me no where.
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This kid in this video is acting up on live television. He kinda irks me when he smacks his mom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn18H3FKDV4
I don't know what I would do if I was in his moms situation but I guess it is partly her fault.
She said she was petrified because of her son, yeah right...She seems like she is sucking up to the camera and trying to contain herself.
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What kind of right: moral ? legal?
Even if you have a right to something - it still does not mean that it is a good idea.
Spanking is an admission on the part of the parent that he cannot otherwise properly handle their responsibility towards a child. It is a cop-out (and older children know it too - it actually dimishes your authority as a parent - it is an addmission of your impotence)
How do you discipline children instead?
Using severe (when the situation calls it) age appropriate consequences and being firm about followiing through with it. You have to keep a tight link between cause and effect.
My question in the title isn't sufficient in what I was really trying to ask. I should've typed, "Is It Moral For Parents To Spank Their Children?"
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If your position is that they do, under what circumstances? What Limitations should exist? If your position is that they do not, how should parents discipline children? How should they deal with inappropriate behavior? Do you think spanking is effective? etc...
I'm pretty much clueless about what to think right now.
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/screenshots/2008/...wood-tells.html
It takes a certain something to pick a fight with Dirty Harry. Apparently, Spike Lee has it.
At the Cannes Film Festival in May, Lee, whose next film, "Miracle at St. Anna," is about an all-black U.S. division fighting in Italy during the war, slammed Clint Eastwood over his 2006 Iwo Jima movies, "Flags of Our Fathers" and "Letters From Iwo Jima," saying the filmmaker overlooked the role of black soldiers during World War II.
"He did two films about Iwo Jima back to back and there was not one black soldier in both of those films," Lee told reporters at Cannes. "Many veterans, African-Americans, who survived that war are upset at Clint Eastwood. In his vision of Iwo Jima, Negro soldiers did not exist. Simple as that. I have a different version."
Now, Eastwood's throwing some punches of his own. In an interview to promote his latest film, "Changeling," Eastwood said Lee should "shut his face."
"Has he ever studied the history?," Eastwood growled to British paper The Guardian, who published the interview today. Regarding "Flags of Our Fathers," Eastwood admitted there was a small detachment of black troops on Iwo Jima, "but they didn't raise the flag. The story is 'Flags of Our Fathers,' the famous flag-raising picture, and they didn't do that. If I go ahead and put an African-American actor in there, people'd go, 'This guy's lost his mind.' I mean, it's not accurate."
Eastwood added that Lee's got another thing coming if he complains about the lack of black actors in "Changeling." The film is set in Los Angeles during the Depression, before the city had a significant black population.
"What are you going to do, you gonna tell a f*****' story about that?" Eastwood ranted. "Make it look like a commercial for an equal opportunity player? I'm not in that game. I'm playing it the way I read it historically, and that's the way it is. When I do a picture and it's 90 percent black, like 'Bird,' [the 1988 biopic of Charlie Parker] I use 90 percent black people."
He finished his roast with a simple, harsh directive:
"A guy like him should shut his face," Eastwood said.
Doubtful. ABCNEWS.com's request to Lee to comment was not immediately returned, but considering this isn't his first war of words with Eastwood, it's unlikely the outspoken director will stay silent for long.
Spike Lee Responds Again...
After Eastwood told him to "shut his face" and stop criticizing him about not including African-Americans in his 2006 Iwo Jima movies, "Flags of Our Fathers" and "Letters From Iwo Jima," Lee's lashing out.
"First of all, the man is not my father and we're not on a plantation either," he told ABCNEWS.com. "He's a great director. He makes his films, I make my films. The thing about it though, I didn't personally attack him. And a comment like 'a guy like that should shut his face' -- come on Clint, come on. He sounds like an angry old man right there."
Lee has a proposal for Eastwood:
"If he wishes, I could assemble African-American men who fought at Iwo Jima and I'd like him to tell these guys that what they did was insignificant and they did not exist," he said. "I'm not making this up. I know history. I'm a student of history. And I know the history of Hollywood and its omission of the one million African-American men and women who contributed to World War II."
"Not everything was John Wayne, baby," Lee added.
For weeks, Lee and Eastwood have been battling over the inclusion of African-Americans in their WWII films. At the Cannes Film Festival in May, Lee, whose next film, "Miracle at St. Anna," is about an all-black U.S. division fighting in Italy, slammed Eastwood, saying the filmmaker overlooked the role of black soldiers during World War II.
"He did two films about Iwo Jima back to back and there was not one black soldier in both of those films," Lee told reporters at Cannes. "Many veterans, African-Americans, who survived that war are upset at Clint Eastwood. In his vision of Iwo Jima, Negro soldiers did not exist. Simple as that. I have a different version."
Then, Eastwood threw some punches of his own. In an interview to promote his latest film, "Changeling," Eastwood said Lee should "shut his face."
"Has he ever studied the history?" Eastwood growled to British paper The Guardian, which published the interview today. Regarding "Flags of Our Fathers," Eastwood admitted there was a small detachment of black troops on Iwo Jima, "but they didn't raise the flag. The story is 'Flags of Our Fathers,' the famous flag-raising picture, and they didn't do that. If I go ahead and put an African-American actor in there, people'd go, 'This guy's lost his mind.' I mean, it's not accurate."
Lee's response to Eastwood's claim?
"I never said he should show one of the other guys holding up the flag as black. I said that African-Americans played a significant part in Iwo Jima," he said. "For him to insinuate that I'm rewriting history and have one of the four guys with the flag be black … no one said that. It's just that there's not one black in either film. And because I know my history, that's why I made that observation."
Lee also pointed to a 2006 Guardian article about African-American veterans' dismay that their experience wasn't covered in "Flags of Our Fathers."
In his interview, Eastwood added that Lee's got another thing coming if he complains about the lack of black actors in "Changeling." The film is set in Los Angeles during the Depression, before the city had a significant black population.
"What are you going to do, you gonna tell a f*****' story about that?" Eastwood ranted. "Make it look like a commercial for an equal opportunity player? I'm not in that game. I'm playing it the way I read it historically, and that's the way it is. When I do a picture and it's 90 percent black, like 'Bird,' [the 1988 biopic of Charlie Parker] I use 90 percent black people."
He finished his roast with a simple, harsh directive:
"A guy like him should shut his face," Eastwood said.
Lee's last words took a different tone.
"Even though he's trying to have a Dirty Harry flashback, I'm going to take the Obama high road and end it right here," he told ABCNEWS.com. "Peace and love."
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This is a question we should all think about everyday just before we get up and just before we go to bed. We should think about our life compared with the average person's life a few hundred years ago. Think about the hunger, the lack of heat in the winter and AC in the summer, outhouses, bad and boring food, no one washing, constant disease and constant pain if you lived past 4O, probably dying in childbirth if you're a woman, seeing half your children die from disease, boredom, lack of opportunity, a short life, backbreaking work, well, you get the idea. But at least they could enjoy a sunset and a clear view of the night sky. Think about it often; you will relish what you have more.
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I can't speak for the original poster of that statement but what I think they meant is that Obama would have just about as much appeal as Joe Biden if he weren't black, and Hillary would have clinched the nomination months ago.
White guilty liberals vote for him because it makes them feel all warm and fuzzy inside as they desperately try to find ways to ease their consciences for being too successful (or for simply being white).
And black people vote for him, well... because he's black.
Hmmm, I doubt Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton could gather as much support as Obama has and they are black.
There is no evidence for what you are saying.
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Welcome to the first affirmative action election folks.
What is that suppose to mean and why do you think that?
I doubt a kid would choose the name Obama for themselves if they wanted to try to be President of the United States one day(that is what Obama said regarding similiar comments to yours).
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Here is an article about Obama's father...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080415/pl_politico/9610
Long-lost article by Obama's dad surfaces Ben Smith, Jeffrey RessnerTue Apr 15, 5:43 AM ET
Barack Obama’s dad was such an important but absent figure in his life that he devoted his first book, “Dreams From My Father,” to the search for details about his father’s life and how the quest helped forge a son’s identity.
Now, a long-forgotten essay written 43 years ago by Obama’s father has surfaced, and its contents reveal much — not only about the senior Obama’s grasp of economic theory but also about the iconoclastic politics that, his son would later write, sent him into the spiral of career disappointment that concluded with his death in 1982 in his native Kenya.
Parts of the article, titled “Problems Facing Our Socialism,” have been making the rounds on several small blogs over the past week, but Politico.com is now, for the first time, reproducing the entire piece in its original form.
The scholarly eight-page paper, credited to “Barak H. Obama,” is never mentioned in “Dreams From My Father,” nor has the candidate discussed it in any of his many public speeches. (Politico brought the article to his campaign’s attention late last week, but aides did not respond to a request for comment from Obama.)
The paper’s substance, though, offers insight into the mind and the political trajectory of a man described by his son largely through his emotional life, his family and his traditions.
Published in the esoteric East Africa Journal in 1965, the year after Kenyan President Mzee Jomo Kenyatta took power and the country declared independence from British rule, the paper takes a gently mocking tone to the Kenyatta government’s key, controversial statement of economic policy, titled “African Socialism and Its Applicability to Planning in Kenya.”
Obama senior’s journal article repeatedly asks what the Kenyan government means by “African Socialism,” as distinct from Soviet-style communism, and concludes that the new phrase doesn’t mean much.
Elements of Obama’s argument now seem prescient, others deeply dated, but his central aim — particularly in the context of the heady early days of African independence — was moderate and conciliatory.
“The question is how are we going to remove the disparities in our country, such as the concentration of economic power in Asian and European hands, while not destroying what has already been achieved and at the same time assimilating these groups to build one country,” Obama senior wrote.
When he wrote the paper, he was in Nairobi and working on a never-completed Harvard doctoral dissertation, according to his brief biography in the journal.
Two years earlier, he had divorced his wife, who was raising his son in Hawaii.
But even back in Nairobi, the elder Obama felt free to mock the Kenyan government.
“Maybe it is better to have something perfunctorily done than none at all!” he concluded.
That’s the attitude, his son would later find, that took him from a career in the Kenyan governing class to “a small job at the Water Department” and then to unemployment and alcohol.
Obama senior, who returned to Kenya after his Harvard years, soon became a public critic of Kenyatta’s growing favoritism toward the Kikuyu tribe, over Obama’s Luos.
“Word got back to Kenyatta that the Old Man was a troublemaker, and he was called in to see the president. According to the stories, Kenyatta said to the Old Man that because he could not keep his mouth shut, he would not work again until he had no shoes on his feet,” Obama quoted his half-sister as telling him.
Obama wrote that his father was rehabilitated after Kenyatta’s death in 1978 but was by then broken and embittered.
Obama senior’s 1965 paper, however, brims with confidence and optimism.
The article, with a loaded term in the title and a casual discussion of socialism, communism and nationalization, has raised the hackles of some anti-Obama conservatives who have been discussing it online.
Greg Ransom, a blogger who unearthed the journal at the University of California, Los Angeles, library, calls the article “the Rosebud” that provides the missing key to Obama’s memoir. Ransom wrote about the article’s contents recently in a posting with the provocative headline “Obama Hid His Father’s Socialist and Anti-Western Convictions From His Readers.”
But Kenya expert Raymond Omwami, an economist and UCLA visiting professor from the University of Helsinki who has also worked at the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, said Obama senior could not be considered a socialist himself based solely on the material in his bylined piece.
Omwami points out that the elder Obama’s paper was primarily a harsh critique of the controversial 1965 government document known as Sessional Paper No. 10. Sessional Paper No. 10 rejected classic Karl Marx philosophies then embraced by the Soviet Union and some European countries, calling instead for a new type of socialism to be used specifically in Africa.
The government paper rejected materialism (i.e., “conspicuous consumerism”), outlined the nation’s goals to eradicate poverty, illiteracy and disease, and also laid out important decrees regarding land use for economic development. Obama senior’s response covers these issues, frequently focusing on the distribution of real estate to farmers. Since most Kenyans could not afford farmland in line with market forces established earlier by white British farmers, the elder Obama argued that strong development planning should better define common farming space to maximize productivity and should defer to tribal traditions instead of hastening individual land ownership.
In other words, Obama senior’s paper was not a cry for acceptance of radical politics but was instead a critique of a government policy by Kenya’s Ministry of Economic Planning and Development, which applied African socialism principles to the country’s ongoing political upheaval.
“The critics of this article are making a big mistake,” says Omwami, who at Politico’s request read the document and the associated Internet debate over the weekend. “They are assuming Obama senior is the one who came up with this concept of African socialism, but that’s totally wrong. Based on that, they’re imbuing in him the idea that he himself is a socialist, but he is not.”
Omwami says he would instead refer to the elder Obama as “a liberal person who believed in market forces but understood its limitations.” Sessional Paper No. 10 centered on the new control of Kenya’s resources, promoting a form of trickle-down economics in which financial aid would be consolidated in more populated areas with the hope that positive effects would eventually be felt by smaller villages.
Obama senior argued against this notion, and Omwami suggests history has proven him correct since most, if not all, small communities in Kenya have yet to benefit from monies that poured into larger cities since the nation’s independence four decades ago.
The elder Obama also looked ahead to what has become a shaping force across Africa — urbanization — arguing that the government’s efforts to lure citizens back to the land were futile.
“If these people come out in search of work, it is because they cannot make a living out of whatever land they have had,” he wrote.
In retrospect, it was one of several warnings in the paper that would prove true.
“If you understand the Kenyan context, you can clearly see in that paper that Obama senior was quite a sharp mind,” Omwami concluded. “He addresses economic growth and other areas of development, and his critique is that policymakers in Kenya were overemphasizing economic growth.
“We had high economic growth for years but never solved the problems of poverty, unemployment and unequal income distribution. And those problems are still there.”
Obama senior’s projections and critiques are so spot on, says Omwami, that he plans to assign the paper to his classes in the future.
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How is not believing in God not subjective?
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I know this whole black and white issue is rather silly to you all here on this forum. It seems to me though that you all are focusing more on black's racism towards whites more than a white person's racism towards blacks. Their are many instances of white racism. Let me give you some examples; For one thing I've noticed that most whites react to their own people's plight much faster than they do to the plight of others...Kosovo and the World Wars are some good examples of this. While blacks and other plights get ignored. You can look at Rwanda & Darfur, for recent examples. There are also the disproportionate amounts of blacks compared to whites in prisons. Police brutality to my knowledge doesn't happen to white people either. I realize that what I've said so far in my post has come off as a bit of a whine but aren't they true? and shouldn't those issues be addressed?
People are individuals and evil is evil and I have empathy for suffering people no matter what their color.
But I myself have read some Dubois(A self made person aswell I might add) and to be completely honest, to me, blacks are more important because it seems that our lives have been worth less than the average white life as long as blacks have been in contact with whites. I know that, that thought is wrong according to objectivist ethics but isn't that true? That thought has been lingering over my head ever since I've discovered Rand
I'm black, so I guess that is why this is such a big issue to me, there are not too many black objectivists, lol.
Believe it or not I just realized how racist this post was. We live in the US, and Rwanda & Darfur has nothing to do with the U.S.. As far as the disproportionate amount of blacks in jail are concerned, maybe it is some of the blacks fault they got in jail and not because the cops are racist. Maybe if that "don't taze me bro" guy was african american they would of called that police brutality. Maybe they should stop calling white on black crimes hate crimes. If I want to help I can help but I can't force other people to do the same. I guess this is logical too.
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"Monk"........................
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I know this whole black and white issue is rather silly to you all here on this forum. It seems to me though that you all are focusing more on black's racism towards whites more than a white person's racism towards blacks. Their are many instances of white racism. Let me give you some examples; For one thing I've noticed that most whites react to their own people's plight much faster than they do to the plight of others...Kosovo and the World Wars are some good examples of this. While blacks and other plights get ignored. You can look at Rwanda & Darfur, for recent examples. There are also the disproportionate amounts of blacks compared to whites in prisons. Police brutality to my knowledge doesn't happen to white people either. I realize that what I've said so far in my post has come off as a bit of a whine but aren't they true? and shouldn't those issues be addressed?
People are individuals and evil is evil and I have empathy for suffering people no matter what their color.
But I myself have read some Dubois(A self made person aswell I might add) and to be completely honest, to me, blacks are more important because it seems that our lives have been worth less than the average white life as long as blacks have been in contact with whites. I know that, that thought is wrong according to objectivist ethics but isn't that true? That thought has been lingering over my head ever since I've discovered Rand
I'm black, so I guess that is why this is such a big issue to me, there are not too many black objectivists, lol.
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Before looking at the particular studies (which I'll do), I can say based on observation of similar studies that there is a major difference between showing that blacks as a collective have a problem and that blacks have a problem with America. If blacks statistically take more drugs, father more babies out of wedlock, sell drugs more, shoot other people more, per capita, then before asking what's the problem with America, the first question should be, what is the problem? Why? How about dropping the assumption that every problem faced by blacks is because whites are all racist.
I know the basic stand on this, people are individuals, and everybody should just treat each other that way. Which is very logical to me and makes sense. I realize that the racism goes both ways. I believe if they would of did a study on black employers they would of found the exact same findings only reversed.
The argument is though from the multiculturalist/racist point of view, is that all of the things that you have mentioned are symptoms of being oppressed people for so long and that black people are actually justified for hating white people because of that. They even feel that they should be owed something because of the years of government inforced racism and slavery. In turn, they view white people's hate as not being justified at all.
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Now I have to start off by saying that I do not condone racism in anyway, shape or form. I thought though that some of you all could take a look at this study. According to this study, white convicts are just as likely to be hired as a black person without a record in America. I posted this in the Critics of Objectivism section because I figured that the study is biased and could be just trying to okay the use of reverse racism.
My question is, after reviewing this study what do you think of it? Do you think it's legitimate? If so, are some of the black's problems with America legitimate? And how can we change that, their views? This study only confirms their belief that the world is out to get them, what should someone say to them?
The study was for entry level positions, but, it's true, I guess(long read).
http://www.nyc.gov/html/cchr/pdf/race_report_web.pdf
http://www.dmiblog.com/archives/2007/09/wh...kely_to_be.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m135...08/ai_n15681393
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I have been thinking about this subject pretty seriously lately and I have to be honest about what I think.
I don't see why people are having tea parties ...isn't Obama giving tax breaks to 95% of the people in America?