Missing posts from forum?

I received two email updates to “The Unbounded, Finite Universe” thread in the “Metaphysics and Epistemology” forum, marked respectively as 4:19pm and 4:25pm today, yet when I go to the forum the latest post is from GreedyCapitalist at 10:44am, and these two post are not there.

Likewise, a number of postings were made to the “Defending Ayn Rand against attacks” thread in the “Basic Questions” forum, and yet the latest post in the thread shows as yesterday at 12:11 pm by non-contradictor.

Anyone know what is going on?

I received two email updates to “The Unbounded, Finite Universe” thread in the “Metaphysics and Epistemology” forum, marked respectively as 4:19pm and 4:25pm today, yet when I go to the forum the latest post is from GreedyCapitalist at 10:44am, and these two post are not there.

Likewise, a number of postings were made to the “Defending Ayn Rand against attacks” thread in the “Basic Questions” forum, and yet the latest post in the thread shows as yesterday at  12:11 pm by non-contradictor.

Anyone know what is going on?

Stephen,

I can’t find the posts you are referring to from “The Unbound,…” thread based on the times you list. I will look further because the times on the posts may be off based on time zones from the time you have referenced.

However, regarding the series of posts (or perhaps raving rants is more accurate) deleted from the “Defending…” thread, there were several posts devoid of intellectual content, which were off-topic, full of personal attacks between two users who have already been warned about various issues. Furthermore, one of those users decided to divulge personal information about the other user which had absolutely no place on this forum. In the fray, one of your posts was deleted, not because of the reasons above, but because you had quoted in entirety one of the other offending posts that was deleted. Your deleted post was the one calling for action against one of the offenders.

While the question may arise as to maintaining an historical record with these posts, pending further investigation/action, there is a fair chance that one or both of those users is going to be banned anyway.

Stephen,

I can’t find the posts you are referring to from “The Unbound,…” thread based on the times you list.  I will look further because the times on the posts may be off based on time zones from the time you have referenced.

That is really strange. I received notification of both posts late this afternoon, and the author of each was Rational_One. I simply cannot imagine how the email notification was sent out, yet the posts did not appear. I can forward you copies of what I recieved, if that will help.

However, regarding the series of posts (or perhaps raving rants is more accurate) deleted from the “Defending…” thread, there were several posts devoid of intellectual content, which were off-topic, full of personal attacks between two users who have already been warned about various issues. Furthermore, one of those users decided to divulge personal information about the other user which had absolutely no place on this forum.  In the fray, one of your posts was deleted, not because of the reasons above, but because you had quoted in entirety one of the other offending posts that was deleted.  Your deleted post was the one calling for action against one of the offenders.

Oh, that makes perfect sense. I’m glad that you (or, whomever did) removed that nonsense. The post I alluded to was ludicrous beyond belief.

While the question may arise as to maintaining an historical record with these posts, pending further investigation/action, there is a fair chance that one or both of those users is going to be banned anyway.

Well, for what it is worth, my opinion. Though I have found some of Citizen Publius’ posts to be, let’s say, a little strange, he seems relatively innocent and the one in question in that thread was, if not overly literate, pretty much on the mark and focused on actions of the other poster that happened here. By contrast, the offending post by Thesweetscience was unbelievably offensive and intended as hurtful, and focused solely on personal issues completely and totally unrelated to this forum. In my view, these two should not be treated equally in what transpired.

I received two email updates to “The Unbounded, Finite Universe” thread in the “Metaphysics and Epistemology” forum, marked respectively as 4:19pm and 4:25pm today, yet when I go to the forum the latest post is from GreedyCapitalist at 10:44am, and these two post are not there.

Stephen, that is my doing. Both posts were from the same person. Neither post had any identifiable rerference to particular earlier posts. I privately invited the poster to learn how to use the quotation function and repost so that readers would know to whom and what he was referring. Vern or other moderators can correct me. Perhaps I should have replaced the deleted posts with a “blank” saying they had been deleted.

EDIT: The error I made, I now see, is that the announcements had already gone out, thereby confusing readers. In the future I will edit the posts myself, if possible, rather than delete them – and then also caution the original sender to learn how to use the features.

Stephen, that is my doing. Both posts were from the same person. Neither post had any identifiable rerference to particular earlier posts.

Mystery solved! And yes, you are right, one would have to guess to know the connection intended. Hopefully he will reformat the posts in a more meaningful way, and then resubmit them.

Perhaps I should have replaced the deleted posts with a “blank” saying they had been deleted.

I would think that preferrable, as long as you included a brief description as to why, a description just like the one above.

I’m sorry, but I disagree. I don’t want “blank” posts cluttering up the forum, and I want to separate up moderation from content as much as possible. Also, I am able to review the content of all deleted posts, but not the original content of edited ones.

Stephen, if you want to have access to deleted content, you are welcome to become a moderator yourself.

Stephen, if you want to have access to deleted content, you are welcome to become a moderator yourself.

Thanks, but I have enough trouble already trying to keep up with the un-deleted content! :smiley:

However, regarding the series of posts (or perhaps raving rants is more accurate) deleted from the “Defending…” thread, there were several posts devoid of intellectual content, which were off-topic, full of personal attacks between two users who have already been warned about various issues.

Oh, so that is what happened. I was wondering… On another forum I post in, if the post that you get a notification for is deleted, then when you click the link it brings up a screen that says: “The topic or post you requested does not exist.” So I was confused when the notifications I got for this one all brought me to the same post. I wonder if there is a way to let the people who recieved notifications know that the posts do not exist anymore without using blank posts… It’s not necessarily a question of wanting to access deleted content, but just wanting to know what the heck is going on when you get a bunch of E-mails for posts that do not exist. Just a thought, but I don’t know a thing about how these forums work so… I guess it is just as easy for me to realize that if the post does not show up that it was probably deleted. Anyway, thanks for clearing that mystery up. :slight_smile:

I guess it is just as easy for me to realize that if the post does not show up that it was probably deleted.

The only reasons why a post would not show up is if it was deleted or moved to a hidden forum. (Technically the same thing, since deleted content is sent to a hidden forum.)