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  1. I have been a McCain/Palin cheerleader for the past month or so, but I am gradually coming back to the conclusion that McCain and Obama offer the same basic principles. The primary difference between them is that Obama knows that he is a socialist, but McCain thinks that he is a capitalist. As many (but the not Feds) have learned from the current economic crisis, decisions have immediate and long term consequences, often in direct opposition to each other (for instance, CRA initially helped the lower echelon earners purchase homes, but now has made home-ownership further out of reach than ever before).

    The choice between Obama and McCain has near term consequences, such as, if Obama/Dems win, nationalized health care, higher taxation, higher incentivization of unemployment, an activist SCOTUS unconcerned with original intent, and probably some pretty draconian infringement of first amendment rights (if his campaign is any indicator, and it is). If McCain wins we will still see continued unprecedented gov't intervention in the markets, more welfare for the growing unemployed rolls, and a general lack of philosophical basis for governing.

    Short term, a McCain presidency is IMO the lesser of the two evils. But long term, it is likely that McCain's compromising embrace of a mixed economy will lead us further down the slippery road to socialism, while Obama's naked socialism will quickly erode what's left of our economic vitality. If McCain is at the helm in 2012, his failures will be blamed on the remnants of his capitalist ideals, and more people will fall in line with the socialist mindset, especially if they are dependent on gov't at that point. If Obama reigns, and fails, as he must, there will be a clearer picture of what is really wrong in the mix of capitalism and socialism, and we may have enough of a capitalist nature left to climb our way out of the pit. Obama may then end up being the better option.

    The question then is who to vote for. If you vote for Obama given the preceding rationale, you are giving him a mandate, and absolving socialism of blame (after all, you have sanctioned it). If you abstain, it can be taken as either a hatred for both candidates, or as an inability to choose your favorite. These are two diametrically opposed conclusions, so if you're trying to make a statement, don't abstain. If you vote for an alternative candidate your support could be confused with actual support for the likes of Nadir, Babar, McKinney or Keyes (didn't he already lose to Obama?).

    Given all that, I believe the answer is to write in a candidate. That will send a message that none of the candidates is worthwhile. To whom does it send a message? To whomever might be willing to mount a viable third party challenge based on the principles of individual rights. But who to write in??? Ron Paul? Myself?

    John Galt?

    After much thought, I am coming around to the same conclusion - that an Obama presidency may be strategically better, though tactically disastrous.

    This year's scenario reminds one of the situation in 1976:

    • The Republican party politically in a shambles due to Watergate (The Iraq War)
    • Very bad economic situation (stagflation/credit crisis)
    • A new, fresh face ascends to the White House (Carter/Obama)
    • Democrats are in their ascendancy in Congress
    • The "new guy" overplays his hand and alienates himself from his party in Congress
    • The economic disaster deepens
    • Democrats are held responsible
    • Reagan sweeps into office, bringing in a new, more personal-responsibility-driven rhetoric
    • Reagan cut/simplifies taxes
    • ~20 yrs of relative prosperity ensue (unfortunately, much of the credit is assigned to Clinton)

    I can't bring myself to vote for him, but it may just work out to be a transitional thing.

    I am an optimist, mostly. :)

  2. The difference, though, is that the clause, and other parts of the Constitution, mention a right to property, so a right to healthcare would violate that right... unless you can make some bogus argument that your property is yours except when the government wants it, then however much the government asks for, that amount is no longer your property. Does the Constitution have anything to say about this?

    Eminent Domain? :D

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    So IF your strategy is to encourage gridlock in the hopes that the Rs will grow a spine when they are bickering, vote for McCain/Palin. The congress will almost certainly remain Democrat.

    This is my analysis as well, and (IMO) will likely result in the least harm done. It may also serve as a repudiation of Obama's overt socialism (for maybe ten minutes, anyway :lol: ).

  4. ...

    The ruling says Wal-Mart has to issue vouchers accepted at all other supermarkets as well. There's no word on what happens to the employee discount. I do sonder is this isn't an anti Wal-Mart law. I'm pretty sure employees at the other big supermarket chains like Soriana and Comercial Mexicana also get vouchers exclusive for their stores and affiliates.

    Can Wal-Mart just discontinue the practice, rather than issuing vouchers? After all, cash is kinda like a universal voucher, no?

  5. Has Peikoff's strategy of recommending votes for the Dhimmicrats changed with the sudden religious fervor being spouted by Obama and the other drones? The sudden rise of Christian Leftism is very disturbing. My province of Saskatchewan is only now beginning to recover from the socialist ruin inflicted upon it by Tommy Douglas, one of the more famous Christian Leftists that I can think of. We are still saddled with a massive welfare state including that famous Canadian soviet-style socialized medicine.

    Is the USA ready for Jimmy Carter v2.0?

    Peikoff must be hoping to force an Atlas Shrugged scenario. Or am I missing something?

    I tend to agree.

  6. Check out what the communists are saying about him. I like that quote by the way. It's one of the reasons I am voting for the man.

    If you think this is an honestly held position of his, why does he advocate policies antithetical to that position? Is it cognitive dissonance? Does he not understand how the policies are anti-capitalist? Or was he merely paying lip service to gain votes like yours?

  7. If you are counting on he republican to restrain an Obama White House, you can forget it.

    If Obama beats McCain and the democrats retain or increase their control over congress, there will be one word you will hear over and over again: mandate. Obama, it will be said, has a mandate for change. How will that manifest itself? Any way he and the dems want it to. Whatever Obama proposes, no matter how far out of the mainstream, will be portrayed as exactly the type of change he ran on and the American people voted for. Any republican opposition will be portrayed as obstructionism or outright defiance of the will of the American people. The left, of course, will not be afraid to play their racist trump card either. Just how much, it will be wondered, of the republican opposition to Obama is nothing more than a desire to see the first black president fail? Is their opposition is really philosophical, or is it just racial? Under that type of pressure, don't expect many republicans to pop their heads up.

    In short, I suspect that in the first year or two of an Obama administration, whatever Obama wants, he will likely get.

    This is precisely the nightmare scenario I see as a probability. This will essentially transform "Objectivists for Obama" into " Objectivists for Socialism". Who'd'a thunk it?!? :thumbsup:

    No, the way I see it, we should place our bets on a divided government over a rubber-stamp Democratic government. This isn't 1993-94. We can't count on the Democrats to put any kind of restraints on their "Rock Star" given the deep partisan divisions that have developed since the Great Republican Reformation.

  8. When he does it's very likely the GOP will oppose him for two reasons 1) partisan grounds (which is a pretty bad reason, but you can count on it) and 2) some Republicans still favor smaller, limited government.

    Partisan grounds, though, are the most important reason. The GOP would largely support a president McCain in almost everything for the same reason; as it supported Bush on his prescription drug governmental expansion. McCain is a big government conservative. he will expand the powers of government, too, but in a more modest fashion than Obama. But he'll do it nearly unopposed. democrats would press him for even more, if they press him for anything. So with Obama as president there is more oppposition in the right direction. it may even work.

    Given that the Congress and Senate are already Democratic majorities, and that those majorities are predicted to strengthen, I am not sure that GOP backing will be that helpful. If anything, a divided government will allow little to be done, and that, generally, is the best scenario (IMHO).

    I am loathe to give a Democratic Congress to Obama to do with as he sees fit. Given the charismatic aura (reminiscent of JFK) surrounding him, he will likely do a lot of damage. The kind of damage that builds institutional bureaucracies that are difficult (at best) to undo. :)

  9. Given Barack Obama's well-known positions on politico-economic matters (higher taxes, nationalized/guaranteed healthcare, greater environmental regulation, expanded welfare state), and his propensity for blatant hypocrisy, I find it difficult to separate his from any other pragmatic (ie. creeping) socialist doctrine. And given his recent pronouncements on the role of religious groups in government, it seems the conclusions of the DIM hypothesis (as I understand it) are being turned on its head. I mean, how can intellectually honest Objectivists support this guy with a straight face?

    Like the Christian leaders who supported the formation of the state of Israel, hoping it would speed the Armageddon/Rapture/Second Coming/End of Days (whatever), are Objectivists trying to "force" an "Atlas Shrugged" scenario? :)

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    If he were to choose Rudy Giuliani, I think it likely large numbers of Republicans wouldn't vote at all. Likewise if he chooses a Democrat, as many pundits fantasize about. If he picks a religious-right conservative, few Democrats will vote for him; particularly few Hillary supporters would vote for him. His best bet would be a well-known "moderate" Republican.

    ...

    Chuck Hegel?

  11. Interesting that China, a former communist country, has the highest percentage of pro-market people in the world.

    I wonder if they would be so supportive if all the ramifications of a free market were made clear ie. no social safety net-type stuff.

    And I'm not sure China can really be called a "former" communist country.... :huh:

  12. I think my sarcasm on the "congratulations" comment did not translate. I shall endeavour to be more explicit in the future. :huh:

    I still think the reaction was a symptom of the current PC-ified culture. I doubt the reaction would have been nearly as shrill (if any, beyond a failing grade) when I was in HS (late 70's).

  13. I'd be interested in hearing what people have to say about the following issue in the news (if I dare call CNN news):

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/04/25/baby.emilio/index.html

    From TFA:

    "Emilio is on Medicaid, which usually doesn't pay for all hospital charges. The hospital's spokesman said that he doesn't know how much it's costing the hospital to keep Emilio alive, but that cost was not a consideration in the hospital's decision."

    Why is cost not a consideration? I'm not saying it should be the only, or even necessarily a major consideration, but it definitely should be a factor. Especially when community aid is playing a (rather large) role.

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