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  1. US12345

    God exists

    I believe that there is no existence without meaning...it doesn't I was just looking for a forum to chat in with people who had different ideas then mine had intelligence and might one day see some of what I believe in i g2g but ill be back later to continue this
  2. US12345

    God exists

    No our concsiousness is what gives meaning to the world... the meaning stems from love which is the key element of our consciousness
  3. US12345

    God exists

    the consciousness that love and the moral code giv us no because it is not a fundamental desire like Hunger or Thirst. I am sure you have heard stories about this desire. And if you allow it I am sure you will find it in time You just said the burden of proof was on me to disprove the gremlins. YOU CONTRADICTED YOURSELF:: SEE THE BURDEN IS ON YOU TO DISPROVE GOD. In terms of sleep no, I am not talking about being awake but in death yes
  4. US12345

    God exists

    yes but god is a consciousness entirely separate from that No if you look back i am not trying to prove god whatsoever through that thought process...merely stating that i do not belief reality can exist without consciousness Fly to Venus until then use your experiences to make a rational descion if you believe there are by all means go ahead
  5. US12345

    God exists

    I am agreeing on that point. What I am saying is that how would you know what happens if there wasn't any consciousness. I was simply asking how he new the world was created before there was consciousness
  6. US12345

    God exists

    Yes but there is still consciousness in the world, or universe I should say... And how are you proving this. I could say the big bang was perpetuated by god thus he was a consciousness.
  7. US12345

    God exists

    Time is an energy in the natural world. God is in the supernatural. They are on two different planes. So conciousness and existence both exist now. That is a fact you can't refute. It could be one way but it isn't. And how do you now that the world would continue to exist. Prove it. O wait you can't because there is no consciousness. again natural versus supernatural and the bible at least to me is not to be taken literally. So what physical laws are you talking about. The gateways are love, the moral code and the fundamental desire for God. In answer to the last one, you c
  8. US12345

    God exists

    The point remains that if there was no consciousness than it would have no relevance. And another point, your telling me that things don't stem from Consciousness. Well how about significance. If there was no consciousness then there would be no relevance to that and if there was no consciousness than there would be no one to make this ridiculous point. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE AT LEAST ATTEMPT TO ATTACK SOME OF MY THEORIES OR CAN'T THEY BE ATTACKED BECAUSE THEY JUST CAN'T
  9. US12345

    God exists

    On closer inspection of your argument it amounts to God doesn't exist because I don't believe he exists. It seems to me that that is the negative. You are laughable in your attempts to deny it. No, no, he is a negative so I SWEAR he doesn't exist. But on a lighter note, I would suggest taking 3 days and going into the woods and sit there. For three days. No book. No distractions. Only food and a tent. That is one way I have heard and experienced you can really begin to find the desire for God. WHY IS IT IGNORANT?? Prove it is not a fundamental desire. Do you honestly believe t
  10. US12345

    God exists

    No I merely asked you to consider it with an open mind and use your reason. A few questions: why is god a negative, and why is the burden of proof on us. You can only explain the supernatural with the natural by showing the gateways into which it enters out lives. The answer to what our soul is, is that it is where the moral code and thus love resides. It is the essence of what makes us human:: the love and relationships we all have.
  11. US12345

    God exists

    I said that love is the essence of all things moral. Morality is not relative, Ayn Rand said so herself, God resides there. I then explained why he would reside there. He represents morality. I said animals appear to show moral codes at time but with humans it is universal, thus indicating a common moral base. You have not addressed any other of the key components and have taken things out of context as well as skipping over very pertinent parts. I would suggest you open your mind, read this again and focus on line 2. Could you possibly point out what exactly I have renamed. Another po
  12. US12345

    God exists

    God exists, and not in the illusionary or fantasy oriented notion originally presented by the first author on this topic. Before I begin let us take into account Ayn Rand's dedication to the individual mind and the power it holds. She believed that anything can be deciphered, understood, explained by that which gives us our power. And she was right. Now, look at God in a different light. Picture him not as a supreme king who sits on his high throne issuing commands from heaven, but rather call up the images of your most powerful and meaningful relationships. The key facet there is love. And lo
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