Doug Plumb

Freedom and value are interchangeable entities under the Uniform Commercial Code - the real law. Lawyer is just another word for liar and they are liars because they hide the fact that the courts run on the UCC. The courts themselves are a game and most of the energy is to establish a value for the judgement that can be used to put it onto the markets, rather than to establish guilt or innocence. An example of rights vs value is seen when a country goes bankrupt, statute laws are written to collect fines and underwrite bonds. To learn more, read "Introduction To The Law Merchant"

"Also, the second law of thermodynamics has nothing to do with what you're saying. It instead is an expression of the universal law of increasing entropy, stating that the entropy of an isolated system which is not in equilibrium will tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value at equilibrium. When applied to physics (hence the name), the law states that "Heat generally cannot spontaneously flow from a material at lower temperature to a material at higher temperature." (Rudolf Clausius, the man who came up with the second law of TD) So what the Hell are you talking about?" The second law has to do in general with potential, whether that be gravitational or heat potential. I understood the second law better back then because I happened to be researching it, but I only have a bachelors degree so I had to check my understanding with people that have advanced degrees. Perhaps you know something that I do not, but I doubt that. I'm not going to post here any more because no one can come up with any evidence that supports the official version and that is what I was looking for. I'll check in periodically to see if anyone can find some evidence.

9/11 involved an attack that was co-incident with an identical excercise. London 7/7 also had an identical excercise happening at the same time for bombs going off at the exact same time and places. (see Alex Jones Terrorstorm for video testimony of intelligence officers saying this) The OKC bombing also had an excercise going on at the same time. Bombs were found in the building as shown on the local news networks but this was never shown on mainstream (See Alex Jones 9/11 Road to Tyranny to see these clips). Jones movies are free on Google. One may argue that these excercises gave the terrorists opportunity, but why is it that no one from the inside was arrested ? I believe 9/11 was an inside job due to the manner and speed at which the buildings collapsed. They collapsed straight down through the path of maximum resistance and this is impossible due to the second law of thermodynamics which states that objects fall through the path of least resistance. Therefore for the center axis of the buildings to be the path of least resistance they had to be blown out of the way with explosives. There is a far greater number of scientists and engineers that support the inside job hypothesis than support the official version. Only a handful of scientists, engineers and intelligence people support the official version of events but the numbers of the same type of professionals that support the hypothesis that 9/11 was an inside job number in the many hundreds. You can see them here: http://patriotsquestion911.com/ and here www.ae911truth.org and here http://911scholars.org/ . There is some overlap - ie many of the people (perhaps all) that are on scholars for 9/11 truth or Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth are also listed on Patriots for 9/11 truth. Whether or not 9/11 was an inside job, the people here have stuck their necks out to express their beliefs and based on this they deserve a great deal of respect. It takes no courage for an engineer or scientist to speak on behalf of the official version but few do. Its scientific ludicrous and that is why. I can debunk any one of the Popular Mechanics points. They are based on straw men and sometimes outright lies or violations of the fundamental principles of science. Official version support is always based on lies, the NIST report was always changing theories. I have a degree is electrical engineering but have spoken to many Phd structural and physics people regarding my hypothesis about the second law of thermodynamics, they tell me that I am correct and that it does not require an expert to see this. I am interested in evidence that supports the official version because I do not want to believe this. People forget that the official version requires evidence too. I would like to debate based on evidence, not innuendos and insults. The last time I debated 9/11 I was accused of being a wife beater ( I am not married). I hope the people on this forum are better than that, but this is often the tactic of people who wish to avoid a discussion based on evidence

I am very interested in this. I have Natural Right and History, but not the background to understand Strauss' historical references. I know very little about Strauss, everything I know is in this post. I know Strauss' philosophy is leading this New World Order and that he was a student of Schmidt who was Hitlers advisor. Within the first 14 pages of Natural Right and History he says that the common man deserves no right, including the right to happiness. I had to stop reading, not understanding his references from there. There is a BBC documentary on Strauss' views called "Baby Its Cold Outside" and it goes through many aspects of recent history surrounding terrorism. I believe 9/11 was an inside job, about this I am 100% sure having looked at the evidence in detail. The neocons believe terrorism is a moral way of changing the world - fewer casualties required to generate the necessary fear to make the change. Does anyone have any other references ?