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    probeson got a reaction from 2046 in IDF Raids Free Gaza Movement Aid Flotilla   
    It has been suggested that the topic has deviated from its main point and is actualy more relevant in this thread:

    http://forum.ObjectivismOnline.com/index.php?showtopic=19777&st=20&gopid=262775&#entry262775

    I welcome any comments and I assure you that I will offer a reasonable and logical argument to support my ideas.
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    probeson got a reaction from 2046 in IDF Raids Free Gaza Movement Aid Flotilla   
    Looking through some of the posts here on Israel and its criminal attack of civilians is like walking into a twilight zone of Orwellian double-speak. Has anyone noticed that the initiation of force is being called self-defense? Has anyone noticed that it is being suggested that Israel has the right to starve these people? Has anyone noticed that there is not one instance of criticism for the IMMORAL occupation and military dictatorship being imposed on Palestinians AND DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT OF HAMAS by Israel?

    Also, why is there no mention of why so many people in so many countries are trying to break this medieval siege? Is the whole world , including Nobel Laureates, western politicians, human rights activists, scientists, Israelis, and Jews alike -risking their lives for a mere dislike of Israel? Has anyone even stopped to think that this is pure evil? Has anyone mentioned that Israel is an apartheid state? Why is there no defense for our countryman who was summarily executed according to an impartial UN investigation WHICH ISRAEL RESISTED? Why is there no discussion of if the blockade is moral in the first place and should we be siding with the victims of aggression-THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT OF HAMAS and the Palestinians. After all, occupation and illegal annexation of land outside one's sovereign borders is the initiation of force and the aggressor forfeits ALL rights, including his right to live. Therefore, any defensive action taken by the victim is moral. If a hulking brute attacked a petite woman with the intention of rape(land theft) and murder(ethnic cleansing) would she be justified in cutting his balls off? Would he have a reasonable defense that she did not fight fair.....

    I find this topic to be completely dominated by the Israeli/Jewish narrative and therefore very revealing as well.It is comical listening to the pronouncements of the IDF go unchallenged on a board supposedly committed to reason and the defense of principle.....

    Jesus Christ!
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