Vitamin J

Oh, don't worry. I'm not trying to stuff a V8 in my Miata. I was looking at weight for another reason. I was just curious how much a Japanese DOHC Inline 6 with 2 turbo's weighed compared to an LS7.

I used the term "crazy" lightly. I was simply stating that you're just as passionate about your views as they are about theirs. Personally, I don't have enough time, or a long enough attention span to get that involved. But yeah, the LS7 is all aluminum with titanium parts. and of course, taking some metal out of the cylinder walls doesn't hurt weight. Now if you want an enviornmentalist's head to explode, point out the fact that the new Z06 with a 7L V8 and 505hp gets 27mpg.

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I actually came accross this thread, and this Forum, while searching google.com for the weight of the Toyota 2JZ-GTE Supra motor to compare to the weight of the new Chevy LS7 that powers the '07 Corvette Z06. Long story short, I liked where the thread was going, and decided to join after being so frustrated with sharing my views with only myself. Inspector has shown me that there are crazies on both sides of the spectrum. I used to think that only vegetarians accused people of worshiping death and initiated personal crusades against false "religions." But now I have proof that the universe is balanced. So balanced in fact, that when you use gasoline to charge a battery, the battery only takes as much energy as the gas that was burnt. Amazing. Who'da thunk? I guess that's what my teacher was trying to tell me in high school physics. The extra mpg must come from regenerative braking, which is a total loss to conventional cars. Also, the reason the EPA's fuel mileage tests are so varying is not because manufacturer's lie about the mpg's, it actually depends on certain variables. Variables like: how heavy your foot is, how fast you drive, if it's 40*F or 80*F, how much humidity is in the air, how windy it is (and if you happen to be driving the same way as the wind), how many people are in the car, how big the tires are, what compound the tires are made of, if you're listening to the radio, if the A/C is on, if the heater is on, if your headlights are on, if you're following a big truck or nothing at all, if the road is concrete or asphalt, if your window is down, if you've washed your car lately, etc. In the end, a small european diesel, like a VW Golf TDi, will get roughly 2.5x better fuel mileage on any given trip than the Prius. It will cost less to own and be more reliable. Not to mention the buggy software in the Prius which causes it to shut down completely, and the motor takes the power steering, ABS, headlights, and airbags with it. So if you happen to be doing 75mph down the freeway, you'd better hope it happens on the straight part, during the day. Not to mention that no matter how long Toyota says it's battery's will last, they won't last as long as you'd hope. Battery life depends on rate of charge, length of charge, temperature, % full when starting and ending charge, and how fast they are drained. So it depends entirely on how you drive. Just like the reliability of conventional cars. But I don't care about that, I have an SCCA Racing License which means I drive a car will a low restriction exhaust that it loud and has a removable catalytic converter. I use tires up very fast, and brake pads as well. But, my racecar, which happens to be a '92 Mazda Miata, causes just as much damage to the enviornment as the Prius, if not less. Let me explain: Back in 1992 when my Miata was brand new it weighed in at about 2600lbs with no driver, it had 116hp, and achieved about 28mpg combined. But in the year 2006 it weighs exactly 2300lbs with driver, has about 125hp, and achieves about 32mpg on the road (if I have a light foot) and 12mpg on the racetrack. But even though my car gets poorer gas mileage than a Prius, and is much dirtier, my car is made of metal, plastic, and glass. A Prius is made of all these things, but also has 10x as much corrosive acid, and complicated computers (that will be melted down in Asia and stripped of it's precious metals). So, while my car may sit in a junkyard decomposing for 100,000 years. The Prius will take 1,000,000 to decompose. But thankfully, my body won't take that long to decompose, so until then: Happy Motoring! P.S. - I use a '94 Suburban to haul the Miata to the track, it gets 10mpg on a good day, and 6mpg while towing the Miata