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Excellent reasoning! You gonna put this on FB or anywhere?

Jake, that rocks...

I agree, it is the answer. US Armed Forces are also bound by the whims of politics too. Don't cross this line, don't fire at known terrorists until fired upon. The Blackwater folks, a good number of whom were formerly active soldiers and sailors in elite US units, can do operations for the US Military for their security and intelligence that they. the US Military, can't do because of those politics. As you say, the regular army is for fighting wars. Wars have the goal of victory. I don't recognize that ideology as we seem to be back to policing and tribal negotiating and pandering.

Well, one might want to question whether there is an objective justice system for all currently. And are the positions always earned?

I was off work that morning. Took my oldest to school, then got back in the car and the first plane hit. Second one hit while we watched it on TV. Pentagon was hit. When some focus moved to DC, there seemed to be an expansion of what was happening. My good friend of many years was working in DC. He was stationed there in the US Air Force. His job has always been classified, and I know that. I called his house, he didn't have a cell phone, just to leave a message, and, to my surprise, he answered. He was working that morning, but, to paraphase what he said, they sent us home because the last plane was coming to us at the NSA. Was the first time I heard him refer to the NSA, National Security Agency, and I really didn't know what more to say to him after that. Was happy that he was safe and there wasn't a known end to what was happening. But soon afte it was a concern of mine how "they" would know that their NSA location was THE target. If the final target of the last jet wasn't known, it's almost unreasonable to send everyone out to head home on the streets not knowing where the jet was going to crash.

Troubling, yes, in what Constitutional right is this authority given for unlimited opportunities to be delivered from a limited government.

I agree mostly, David. The part that I struggle with is the dollars remaining the same. And if the business could remain the same outside of government intervention. My investment opportunities just haven't been as kind as I would have liked. So, I'm a little more concerned anymore. There was even time when one might expect that home ownership would have been a valuable investment to over time, but that might even be in transition with continued property taxation, new zoning from local, state, and federal entities... Each has to measure their own risk, right? I'm struggling with looking at a US Dollar as a constant. Therein lies my personal struggle.

This is my concern. Looking at the decline of the dollar...using a simple example... If I had worked on a day for a particular recognized value, the dollar I saved would be worth less the longer I held it. No, not always over the history of the USD, but, currently, I have a hard time justifying why it would become more valuable with what is being done. So, a stock that goes up in value in USD's would have to really do something dramatic to just maintain that value of the $1 that I worked for at one time. And that won't happen for every stock, will it? Gold, sure, it might be a hedge, but it won't go under like other companies can and will do. To me there is an attractiveness to the fact that gold IS. It doesn't have emissions, it doesn't have a board of directors, it won't have a merger with someone, it won't loose value because it hired more workers. Gold is gold. Might be over bought right now, so maybe silver is an excellent alternative, in addition to its uses in various industries.

This is my thought too. I cannot predict the changes of gold, but I also cannot necessarily predict the overall longevity of a company, the continued existence of a consumer market for a product, and/or continued government intervention into those market places. Either way, to borrow the famous statement, gold will never be worth zero. Companies collapse, products collapse, and government can't seem to keep its hands out of resources, incomes, etc. So, there is a real risk of an investment becoming worth zero. And if it's value is stated in a monetary system with continued devaluation, what is one really getting?

When I was looking for work on some sites I registered on, I got a bunch of sales and marketing emails too. Training, blah, blah, blah. Generally, for good programs, I've been told to expect about five years of work in establishing contacts, etc. before "making money". Goes for auto sales too. Seems to take about five years, a few years ago at least, before many new car buyers come back to buy another new car. Yes, the job market is harsh. Don't give up. Decide your value and sell yourself as best as you can. Think of it as part of your personal studies too.

I would agree. Jefferson offered ideas that economic power was America's greatest arsenal. Regardless of Reagan's other policies, he did recognize that moving forward to strengthen parts of the overall economy and the financial position of individual citizens and spend militarily through development of new innovative systems that the USSR just couldn't keep pace with.

I would go further in that I have have a warrented distrust of government intervention. Right from the start, this has not been handled in a manner of protection for individual citizens. And this has been a continuation of their new order. Lines for those that want the vaccine and shortages. It's governments intervention into science that concerns me.

Personally, it seems like it is another crisis to generate more power in individual governments if not a global government. I visit hospitals, clinics, and pharmacies each day that I work, and there seems to be "excitement", but this isn't a melt down. I don't have the vaccination myself. I personally don't know anyone that has ever got the virus. Heard about a friend of someone I know, but that's it. I can't confirm that they had a culture done that says they had H1N1 either versus some other virus on top of that.

I don't think I stated "dad" as an empty word. But I cannot state what "emotional words" are to others.

Excellent point. I'm on the other side. I was raised in a Catholic household. Even some priests in the family. So, I have addressed plenty of priests as "father", but it is an empty word like "mister".

Well, there are monks that are priests. They are addressed as father. Then there are the other guys that are not ordained in the same manner as priests, they are addressed as brother just as nun's are addressed as sister. As for first names, a whole lot of priests, nuns, etc. got away from using their last names, Father Meister, to using first names, Father Frederick, as examples. Really, do as you wish. There is no necessary obligation for a title. Just be respectful and professional.

LOL! Maybe not brothers, but Stalin was "Uncle Joe"...

All of those things apply to a safe deposit box and a company that would charge for storage. None of us (myself, the bank, or the gold company) have a monopoly on force. Banks in my area seldom have anyone inside after hours, and they don't have armed guards even. I don't have a vault. So, that cuts both ways. A vault is a known location, so if one had knowledge of something in the vault, that would be the place to go. Maybe even by government regulation... I don't know specifics on how the US government leveraged gold out of private hands in the 30's... Back to personal ownership, easy prey to criminal gangs would still require knowledge of a specific location in one's house. Personally, I don't have a substantial amount of gold/silver, but there is an attractiveness to it that I'm exploring. Seems reasonable to keep it home for easy access with multiple secure locations in the house, etc. Follows that confusion of the location would be protection.

Read it from your second post after replying to your first post.

I'll run with that. Is it always the police "protecting" one's property? I would state that I am the first line of defense for my property. Police are more there to pick up the pieces and act as the government's arm of force IF they could arrive in time. Yes, they could investigate. My thoughts have been around access. If things did hit the fan, how would one gain access, let alone contact the firm depending upon the level of some kind of breakdown, to get one's silver/gold? There might be some thoughts to keeping it in a local safe deposit box. Why not put it in a secret location in a fire proof safe in one's house? Insured even.

Seems like it's a faulty statement from the beginning. I don't excuse Stalin, Che, or Mao or others.

LOL! Notice one thing that is missing. Any individual acceptance. I have a number of food allergies. So, a huge part of my food intake is, well, beef. I'm allergic to wheat and yeasts. And a couple of molds. And I react to chicken and pork. So, if a "culture" "decides" that the raising of cattle for my consumption as sustenance isn't within their subjective "standards", I'm gonna die. Not without a fight though... It's ridiculous. But we already recognize that...

Welcome to the forum!

IN! Count me as part of #2.

Thanks for the update on your decisions. Are you having them store it for you or are you storing it personally? And what reasons led you to goldmoney.com? Thanks!