HolyLandMan

I currently serve in the IDF as a frontline soldier & rescue squad. Soon I'll also be a squad commander.
From a young age I always wanted to serve the most I can... Serving in the IDF is a culture in Israel... even though only 47% of the population really serves, and only 10%-20% serve fronline (="Kravi") soldiers.
Serving as "Kravi" frontline soldier is a wanted social archetype , especially if you serve in elite unites special forces, or command roles.
Moreover, there is a negative social pressure against individuals who don't serve "Mishtamtim".

So serving in the IDF is moral and to your rational self interest, especially if you plan living in Israel.
The law of forced army service in Israel is only valid in a crysis situation, which exists in Israel from its first day, more than 63 years.

If you do not want to live in Israel- it is altruisem and not moral to serve in the IDF.


Currently, Israel IS a socialist & semi religious country.
There is a huge protest right now about the fact that It is almost impossible to lead a normal life in Israel...
More than 50% of my parants' salary goes to tax!
The "strong ecconomy" of Israel is held by a VERY small precentage of the population who carry the burden of the rest of Israelis: unitellegent, uneducated (some even violent) "Atillas", religious mystics and "witch doctors".
It could go to one of two direcions- left=socialist welfare state /right=towards freedom and capitalisem.

The reason I serve in the IDF is because my parants will not support me if I won't + I want a jewish state to exist... So it is my choice.
If Israel will move towards a walfare state and not towards capitalisem, I will leave right after I finish army, if not right away.

I don't have any familly abroad so no one can sponser me. My phisical condition is too high to serve in technical positions.
Altough I might get a "good" role, Or even commanding role- (some elite units already contacted me)
The thing is that in order to serve in thouse roles you have to sign for auditional years. A double edged sword.
And I am not intrested in that.


There is a certain arrangement that you can do with the army here, (And they contacted me too) which is- to go first to a university in isreal- and than go back to the army for 6 instead of 3 years.
I don't like this option because thats taking my freedoom for 9-10 years instead of just 3, and I am not sure yet what I want to learn.

My parrents don't consider any other option for me than going to the army. They tell me I am "selfish and always care about myself" as if its a bad thing.
Thier morality is altruistic and fucked up so there is no reason to talk to them.

Well, considering the fact that there is no better option for me at the moment I guess I will join the army.

I'll view the army is a challenge and certainly do my best, but as a self standart and not as means to so political/religios/idiological/social cause that I don't identify with, and honestly think is retarded.

If I'll feel that I am not growing and getting value out of it, (in other words- wasting my time) I'll leave and deal with all the troubles that comes with it.

I live in isreal. And I know whats happening here: There is no spesific moral code running the country.
The purpose of this country is not formally and CLEARLY defined. Add to it the current democratic system and it Lead to much uncertainty.

Its this half and half shit. Half democratic Half religios=jewish. Half socialist Half capitalist.

Let me tell you about myself so you can get the case:
I am 18 years old and in few monthes I will be forced by "law" to go to the army for 3 years.
I won't even get paid for this. After that I will probbebly go to the university to get a "well paid" job- but the government will tax 50% of my income. Thats the case with my father. He still wants to live here for some acstract reason (jewish victim identity) and he keeps pushing me to serve the country.

I got the highest grades on my highschool- which is MOFET program-and not govroment conrolled. Probeblly the best education you can get here. I think I do have potential... a lot more then most people here.
I have been in goveranment conrolled public school for 1 year. And let me tell you- they worship mediocrity.

I think for myself, But I am a very rare case here.
I do come from a jewish familly but I don't bulive in that, And I don't want to live this jewish victim identity. I am an atheist, an invidual- and I live for my own sake. Not for Isreal. Not for the jewish collective. Not for my familly. Just for me. Selfish.
I get pressure from EVERYWHERE to be mediocre and altruist.

I have dreams, big dreams- opening my own buisness, traveling the world, living a life of my own design- making moeny.. But if I will continue to live in isreal I will probbley have no chance of getting any of that.

So I happened to live in Australia when I was young and I learned english also on my own, IMO my english is perfect and I can live abroad easly. I am planing to leave the country one day. Exept for my familly and friends, Why should I stay here? If I could move to USA or another normal country to work get education there I would leave NOW. But can I?

Thats what happening to Isreal. All the tallanted people are leaving. Atlas Shrugged.

In few years only looters and stupied unintellegent "faith" and hippie people will be left here. You go out to the streets and see what happens.
TONS of people here don't even work. PUBLIC medical system. PUBLIC education. PUBLIC ARMY SERVICE. Got the point right?

Most people get their morality from the media and public schools.
From a very young age a certain identity, religion and morality is PUSHED upon everyone here by the media, the army and the government controlled schools.
And thats the morality of Altruizem.


When I graduated highschool they pointed us some local characters who dedicated their lifes for public service and told us how great they are.
Whenever some indevidual happens to make something big here, for exmeple to get a noble prize, or open a profiting high tech buisness they tell how great the country is to allow it to him. Alow?! HUH?! I think how the *** did he manneged to do that here? with the 50%+ tax rate, shitty public education and 3years of army service?!
('cause their customers and investors are from USA and the rest of the world, thats why)

There is a wierd trend going on here latly and its called "service year".
The indevidual takes 1 year of his life beofore he goes to the army and dedicates it to selfless public service.
Than after they finish they go into the army for 3 more years of public service.
And than at age 22-23 they finish army- with no education, no money and no job. GREAT.
The governament and shcools really recommand that BTW.

There is also something here called "KIBOTSIM" which are little communist zionist communities inside the country. Most of them collapsed...Thouse who manneged to stay alive did it 'cause of industrialist buisnesses in them.

Add to that all the wars going on with the islamic nations, and all the bans on isreali made products.

Why Isreal still exists? 'cause a lot of people around the world hate jews. See the holacost in WW2. So the jewish communite supports it. and tallented people dedicate thier lives to it.

Ayn Rand was born to a jewish familly, she didn't bulive in that. but she recognizes the sorce of hate for jewish people, and a lot of other problems.
Collectives. Unthinking masses. FAITH vs Reason. Altruisem. Rule by FORCE and not by intelect and rationality.
I bulive in the same thing.

Btw Dr. Yaron Brook who is the persident of Ayn Rand Instetute also comes from a jewish family, and he left isreal-'cause he bulives in the same things.

If you tell me 1 way I can escape Isreal and live a life of my own design I am going for it right now.