TheEgoist Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Who will be attending one? I got some unfortunate information from the organizer of Rochester's tea party that one of the speakers will include a speech about Obama's "Campaign against the family and unborn", so I can't sanction that event with my attendance. However, I'm sure that other tea parties will not diverge much from the subject of Obama's ridiculous spending and tax plans. I'd encourage you to goto one if only for a few minutes. I know that Yaron Brook is the KEYNOTE SPEAKER at the Boston Tea Party, which is pretty cool. He gets a full 20 minutes to speak. That's pretty amazing and encouraging. Here is to a huge turnout in Boston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMeganSnow Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Why would it be "sanction" to attend an event with a single speech you dislike? Sounds like an excellent chance to say BOO to me. Or hand out pamphlets. There's one in Brookville on the 3rd, and I'll try to talk my housemate into going since I lack independent transportation. Sounds like it could be a lot of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEgoist Posted June 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Why would it be "sanction" to attend an event with a single speech you dislike? Sounds like an excellent chance to say BOO to me. Or hand out pamphlets. There's one in Brookville on the 3rd, and I'll try to talk my housemate into going since I lack independent transportation. Sounds like it could be a lot of fun. I am not going to disrespect people by attending an event I know I will disagree with simply to boo.. I will also would not cheer for others, because the event has totally missed the point simply by putting one off-topic speech up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaight Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) I am not going to disrespect people by attending an event I know I will disagree with simply to boo.. I will also would not cheer for others, because the event has totally missed the point simply by putting one off-topic speech up. I still think the Tea Parties are best viewed not as an expression of ideas but as an expression of a sense of life. They provide audiences of people dissatisfied with the current direction of the nation, many of whom are unsure of exactly what is wrong or what a better alternative would be. Missing the opportunity to present better ideas to such an audience, merely because some ideas we consider worse have managed to make it onto the speaker's docket, strikes me as cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. That said, I will be at the Tea Party in Boston on the 4th. (John Ridpath is also speaking, apparently.) Edited June 27, 2009 by khaight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas M. Miovas Jr. Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 It's probably too late for the suggestion to work for the current tea parties, especially since Independence Day is only a week away, but I made a suggestion to ARI recently that they make Ayn Rand's article "Man's Rights" into a pamphlet and distribute them for these types of events. Certainly, I would suggest going to that ARI page and make it a favorite on your browser and send the link to anyone asking you why you were participating in a tea party protest. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell from a search on the Ayn Rand Bookstore, this essay isn't produced as a pamphlet and one could probably not get approval to print out copies to hand out, at least not by this Independence Day. I won't be able to get involved in much because I am working until 7pm that day, but I'm definitely for joining the protests, especially if you can hold your own regarding the nature of individual rights. Ad hoc associations are fine, but the conservatives are messing things up by putting it in terms of family values instead of individual rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IchorFigure Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 If anyone is interested in some flyers to have on hand there are multiple resources offering them. Of course ARC has it's dedicated page with several variations. http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pag...topic_tea_party The Undercurrent has flyers summarizing the cause of the financial crisis, and even has a Summer issue specifically created for the tea parties. And lastly, the Objective Standard has its own flyer explaining the need for political opposition based upon philosophic fundamentals. Quite a spread to choose from! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaight Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 It's probably too late for the suggestion to work for the current tea parties, especially since Independence Day is only a week away, but I made a suggestion to ARI recently that they make Ayn Rand's article "Man's Rights" into a pamphlet and distribute them for these types of events. ARI actually did offer to make the "Man's Right/The Nature of Government" pamphlet available to people to distribute at Tea Parties at a nominal cost, in limited quantities. (My impression is that they only have a limited number at-hand.) The offer was $.50 a pamphlet, max of 50. Unfortunately you had to put your order in by June 25th. So I'd say ARI tried to make use of your suggestion, within the scope of their available time and resources. Keep the offer in mind for use in future Tea Parties after this wave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas M. Miovas Jr. Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 ARI actually did offer to make the "Man's Right/The Nature of Government" pamphlet available to people to distribute at Tea Parties at a nominal cost, in limited quantities. I did hear back from ARI / ARC and they sent out an email to all of the Objectivist community groups they had on file regarding "Man's Rights" and other pamphlets geared towards the intellectual issues of the Tea Parties. I didn't hear about it because I don't have a community group registered with ARI. If you have such a group and want to participate use the following contact information. I don't want to include his email address, because ARI doesn't make those publicly available. Perhaps those pamphlets can still be mailed overnight? Anu Seppala Vice President of Cultural Programs Ayn Rand Institute 2121 Alton Parkway, Suite 250 Irvine, CA 92606 (949) 222 6550, ext. 212 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrath Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Be careful about joining the Teaparties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceplayer Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Be careful about joining the Teaparties. Jeanine Garafolo better be careful, for the things I might call HER. Jeanine Garafolo better be careful, for the things I might call HER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrath Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 I always thought it was amusing that a woman who compares people to Nazis for throwing away their Dixie Chicks CDs is accusing people of "not knowing their history." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas M. Miovas Jr. Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Jeanine Garafolo better be careful, for the things I might call HER. It's just your limbic brain stem pressing up against your cerebral cortex...no intellectual content could possibly account for someone standing up for their individual rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas M. Miovas Jr. Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 PJTV just released a comprehensive list of Tea Parties going on around the country. I won't be able to attend any of them, but enjoy and thanks for fighting for individual rights! http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=browse-events&...=1&t=search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tito Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I don't want to include his email address, Anu Seppala is female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas M. Miovas Jr. Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Anu Seppala is female. Thanks for the heads up. I've never spoken to her, so I was just going by the name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissLemon Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I was planning to go to our local Independence Day tea party because I was very encouraged by the turnout at the tax day tea party in my town and I even met a fan of Ayn Rand there. Probably, that because I was wearing a sign that read "Who is John Galt?" and had recently read Atlas Shrugged and thought the tea parties might attract a few Objectivists and wanted to meet some. I am just beginning my study of Objectivism but agree with everything I have read so far and am working to integrate the concepts I've learned in "Atlas Shrugged" and the "The Virtue of Selfishness" into my own life. I've been an atheist since age 10 or so and have always thought capitalism was the best economic system so I didn't have alot to disagree with. Mainly, I haven't used enough reason in my decisions and have a lot of damage repair to do to bring my thinking and actions into line. Anyway, when I went to the local Independence Day Tea Party website and found that the slogan for their "Bill of Rights Tea Party" was: "Clinging to Religion and Guns since 1776" I was so repulsed, I decided not to go. One of the three sponsors of the event is a local church. The event is being held at a gun range which I think is great but I could not stomach that slogan. I even emailed the organizer that I thought they were missing out on a large amount of potential attendees because this slogan implies a mixing of religion and politics that will discourage many, he promptly responded that if they are mixing religion and politics, it's only because the founding fathers did too! So, I had planned to hand out some ARI or ARC flyers to help spread the word. But now I just feel sad and I am afraid that the many Objectivists that I have read or watched online recently are correct about the future and that Obama's massive push toward the socialist left may result in a radical swing to the right and we may end up with a fanatical religious zealot in the White House next. Are the Tea Parties helping to spread religion? How do you guys stay positive in this political climate? Do you think I over-reacted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEgoist Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I don't think you overreacted. Like I stated originally, this went from being an ad hoc movement in some communities to being co-opted by religious conservatives. It isn't true of all the movement, which speaks to the obvious decentralized nature of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaight Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 I don't think you overreacted. Like I stated originally, this went from being an ad hoc movement in some communities to being co-opted by religious conservatives. It isn't true of all the movement, which speaks to the obvious decentralized nature of it. The tea party movement started out grass-roots and decentralized. By presenting a large audience of the politically disaffected, without a coherent unifying ideology, it created a target for co-optation. Various groups have been working to do so, with differing degrees of success in different areas -- Objectivists included. There's going to be a significant Objectivist presence at the Boston Tea Party tomorrow, for example. (I just got back from a sign-making party at OCON in preparation.) If you don't like the way the tea parties are developing in your area, why not work to organize your own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEgoist Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 The tea party movement started out grass-roots and decentralized. By presenting a large audience of the politically disaffected, without a coherent unifying ideology, it created a target for co-optation. Various groups have been working to do so, with differing degrees of success in different areas -- Objectivists included. There's going to be a significant Objectivist presence at the Boston Tea Party tomorrow, for example. (I just got back from a sign-making party at OCON in preparation.) If you don't like the way the tea parties are developing in your area, why not work to organize your own? Objectivists aren't distorting any original message, though. The Religious are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissLemon Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 The tea party movement started out grass-roots and decentralized. By presenting a large audience of the politically disaffected, without a coherent unifying ideology, it created a target for co-optation. Various groups have been working to do so, with differing degrees of success in different areas -- Objectivists included. There's going to be a significant Objectivist presence at the Boston Tea Party tomorrow, for example. (I just got back from a sign-making party at OCON in preparation.) If you don't like the way the tea parties are developing in your area, why not work to organize your own? Your comments make a lot of sense to me. I like your idea of getting involved with organizing one next time. I know at least one other Ayn Rand fan in my area, perhaps we can put our heads together and come up with a plan for the next round of Tea Parties. I'm also glad to hear that the Boston Tea Party has some Objectivist voices present! Can't wait to see the videos if they are made available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas M. Miovas Jr. Posted July 5, 2009 Report Share Posted July 5, 2009 Michelle Malkin's speech before the Dallas South Fork July 4th Tea Party is available on-line, as well as other official events: http://dallasteaparty.org/2009/07/live-vid...icas-tea-party/ I'm still waiting for the Boston Tea Party and speeches by Objectivists to become available. Please give us a heads up about that when possible. I do agree that the Conservatives don't quite have it right, because they don't fully know what individual rights are, but nonetheless I think this is a good movement overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEgoist Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 "You don't owe society a goddamn thing." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidV Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Here's the Objectivist contingent distributing the Undercurrent in Dallas: http://www.flickr.com/photos/heroiclife/36...57616807495169/ More: http://www.flickr.com/photos/heroiclife/se...57616807495169/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IchorFigure Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Yaron Brook's speech at the Boston Tea Party is up on ARI's Youtube account now! I haven't watched it yet but I'll look forward to it soon. and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas M. Miovas Jr. Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Yaron Brook's speech at the Boston Tea Party is up on ARI's Youtube account now! I haven't watched it yet but I'll look forward to it soon. and Thanks for posting the links. It's in HD and a little warbbly on my system, but it was a great speech. I hope they post John Lewis' and John Ridpath's speeches as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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