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Would you consider that complex evershifting?

So asking you to show how a constant 60% perfectly tracks an upward curve of spending (which you implicitly assign to bureaucracy) is disagreeing that 60% behavior of a group is epidemic?

What is the disagreement?

An epidemic is a rise in the number of cases over and above expectations. If you have no expectations of how many people should be irresponsible, by what measure are you identifying it as an epidemic? Considering that I have only asked for the evidence to substantiate your claim and still await it, and furthermore I have not posited my take on the matter, it is presumptuous of you to note disagreements on my behalf.

You still did not address the number you would expect. You chose epidemic to couch your expression with. I just asked you to substantiate it. 6 out of 10 kids is not an epidemic if you expected 59-61 out of 100. Your two charts show a rampant growth of governement debt and of government spending, not of bureaucracy. It is not surprisng that they appear similar. If you had meant spending, you should have said spending. You chose bureaucracy. Still, I asked for a comparison of the number of irresponsible people perfectly tracking growth of govenment bureaucracy. If I were to use your claim to discuss with someone else, they might, and quite legitimately so, request evidence to back it up.

Icy Cosmic Start for Amino Acids and DNA Ingredients The scientists used the National Science Foundation's Green Bank Telescope (GBT) in West Virginia to study a giant cloud of gas some 25,000 light-years from Earth, near the center of our Milky Way Galaxy. The chemicals they found in that cloud include a molecule thought to be a precursor to a key component of DNA and another that may have a role in the formation of the amino acid alanine. "Finding these molecules in an interstellar gas cloud means that important building blocks for DNA and amino acids can 'seed' newly-formed planets with the chemical precursors for life," said Anthony Remijan, of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO).

What number of cases did you expect based on recent experiences? "I expect there to continue to be more and more moochers who can't govern their own behavior needing more and more transfer of wealth looters to service them, just as Ayn Rand predicted." Yes, you expect there to continue to be more and more, but to compare to the 46 million people on food stamps and the related 31 million kids eating "government food", - what is the number you expected to establish validation for the use of the concept 'epidemic'? You provided the current government debt. What was asked for was the data on rampant growth of government bureaucracy, i.e. especially, the number of government officials and administrators? A comparison would be how these two numbers "perfectly track" one another - preferably over time showing the increase of one relative to the increase of the other, a mathematical formula that would substantiate or show the "perfect tracking" relationship would be nice, of your claim, not an ambiguous retort that simply eludes to the specific request of 'correlative', 'causal' or 'something other' (implicitly: please specify if 'something other'.)

"God doesn't need anyone's belief." Went looking for Who mourns for Adonais, in "which the Enterprise picks up signals of an unknown life form near the planet Pollux IV of Beta Geminorum system. This turns out to be the God Apollo - a man-shaped entity with an extra organ in his chest, through which he could channel extraordinary energies. After retiring here from Earth, Apollo missed the adoration he had from the Greeks. He tries to force the Enterprise crew to worship him as a God. When they refuse, he dissolves himself into the wind." when this quote was stumbled upon. "They were Gods once, but their worshipers either died out or were converted to the worship of other Gods. They wail and flutter around the edges of reality without substance or even thought. All they have is need. ... We go out of fashion, Sparhawk—like last year's gowns or old shoes and hats. The Powerless Ones are discarded Gods who shrink and shrink as the years go by until they're finally nothing at all but a kind of anguished wailing." — The Goddess Aphrael, The Hidden City, David Eddings In terms of the power of a god determined the by quantity of its worshipers, Allah of Islam is a success story in this time. To see what it brings about by behaviorist rather than a doctrinaire, one only need look to the middle east to observe what abiding by Allah's "good", because it is "good" for them to do, and what "rewards" are heaped upon them for loving what is "right" enough to do. Yes, moral law is exactly the same for everyone. And just like the law of gravity, it can be discovered and validated by objective observation. In this way, Rand is akin to Newton in identifying what the roots of morality rely upon, firmly entrenching them in the soil of existence as it pertains to the maintenance and flourishing of consciousness.

What number of cases of personal irresponsibility are you referring to? What number of cases did you expect based on recent experiences? What data do you have on the rampant growth of government bureaucracy? What is the comparison you have that shows the perfect tracking between personal irresponsibility and government bureaucracy? Is it merely correlative or do you think it is causal or something other?

"...things will get a lot worse before they ever get better." "The present vector is a downward spiral of more and more morally and ..." Is this more "revealed word"?

Can electrons be taken apart?

If anthropomorphic projection were an anthropic principle, someone might be able to write a book and entitle it "Nailing Jelly to a Tree", only subtitling it "What programmed the programmer?"

That is also the point in identifying that mathematics gives us the impression that we can extend or subdivide indefinately, because we know, mathematically, how to accomplish it. While the law of identity does cover this, the other imposed limit is what we can actually subdivide down to. Until we discover a method that allow us to subdivide subatomic particles is discovered, we are limited in our knowledge and abilty to going further at this point. Discovering such a method is how the law of identity is extended to new or previously undiscovered entities and methods.

You can only continue to break it down metaphysically until you cannot. Mathematics seems to get around this, as an epistemological tool, by giving us the sense that we can extend or subdivide indefinately, because we know how to add another place holder on either side of the decimal.

Just as transcendents seem useful to you in mathematics, keep in mind, they they may only seem useful to you in life as well.

Logic, as posited by Aristotle comes across as the valid form of deduction from premises. Premise A, premise B, C follows. Reducing the premises ultimately lead to the "problem of induction." One's premises ultimately have to be derived from observation. How many men have to die before it can be concluded that "All men are mortal."? Logic as the art or skill of non-contradictory identification at some point must subsume this as well, and may well explicitly state what was subsumed in Aristotle implicitly over the eons.

Interesting assessment. (Along with the introductory paragraph leading to it.)

That is likely part of the basis, however, that Rand recognises the fact that if man abandons reason as the means for dealing with one another, force is the only alternative.

Put an individual on an island where raising and/or hunting/fishing their own food, building/finding their own shelter, etc., is possible, would not be considered 'economic independence'? Even in a situation such as this, some form of language (albeit primitive) or conceptual grasp of what need be done, relating cause (planting seeds, netting fish, spearing animals) to effect (sustainance of food) would need to be performed.

As a draftsman, pi is used in many of the linear, area and volume calculations by the computer program utilized. The square root of minus one has its use in electronics and perhaps some other fields. The infinite amount of numbers between zero and one, one and two, etc., is precisely where Aristotle notes that the concept of infinity first arises. This is also where infitity as a 'concept of method' has its roots. What is clear is that from the counting numbers to calculus are man-made constructs. Given that man is capable of error which gives rise to the need of epistemology, math as a man-made science is capable of harboring error that could elude detection examined under faulty epistemological examination. If you consider the allowances made for the transcendents wise and desire to extrapolate them to other areas of your life, as you are fond of stating, the choice is yours.

Pat Corvini did a series entitled "Two, Three, Four and All That", as well as "Two, Three, Four and All That: The Sequel", which draws into question the approach to irrational number, the postulational system as well as Cantor's Theory of Infinite sets. All I can do here is indicate the series. I am not well enough versed to explain it myself. On the basis of what I have understood of it, it is the approach which needs to be questioned, not applied to other things. At this time, only the first is available at the e-store. It is the sequel that deals with the specifics mentioned. The former deals more with the objectivity of number.

Would you be so kind as to prove that "There is no proof either way.", or are you just going to continue making that unsubstantiated assertion?

Considered the nature of evidence.There can be no evidence for something which in fact does not exist. If something, in fact, does not exist, there is no evidence to provide. This lies near the foundation of the onus of proof principle. To prove something exists, one need only provide evidence. Proof is the step by step presentation of the evidence to support a conclusion which exists. Attempting to prove something does not exist, is attempting to provide evidence which does not exist. To unravel God as an invalid concept, is to become familiar with the uses and misuses of the concepts that God is supposedly anchored on. Valid concepts are those which are properly abstracted, i.e. makes proper use of the evidence available to integrate without contradiction into the sum of one's own knowledge. This can be challenging enough to do for one's own self, and more so to guide someone else through the process.

You're welcome.

Molecules Assemble in Water, Hint at Origins of Life Hud's group knew that they were on to something when they added a small chemical tail to a proto-RNA base and saw it spontaneously form linear assemblies with another proto-RNA base. In some cases, the results produced 18,000 nicely ordered, stacked molecules in one long structure. Georgia Tech partnered with the Institute for Research in Biomedicine in Barcelona, Spain on the project. The proto-RNA's two-component, self-assembling system consisted of cyanuric acid (CA) and TAPAS, a derivative of triaminopyrimidine (TAP).