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  1. Thanks for the links, 2046. It was a helpful conversation.
  2. 2046, I completely agree with what you wrote, and am glad we're starting to connect on each other's points. Whether you know it or not (or even agree with me) I think we agree more than you think. What I am trying to do (which you actually did so well for me) is destroy the forms of arguments I see here so often that neglect this circle-of-reason-and-values, for the lack of a better term. If I'm not mistaken, Rand regarded existence as the primary "value". However, if this presupposition is not shared then it seems possible to me that perfectly rational people could disagree about any
  3. This gets to my original point and what I was trying to zero-in on originally. The "conclusion" in this case is a response to a goal or objective of government / society that is based on certain values. There is plenty of evidence that communism doesn't work. Yet, people still support it as a system of economics because they value equality over liberty (or something similar to that). Is it not possible that socialism is the right "conclusion" if one does not value liberty but values altruism, for example? My point is, and always has been, is that rationalism is upheld here (at least in
  4. Thank you 2046. That is helpful, clarifying and also provokes more questions. In light of paragraph four, why is socialism or communism automatically "irrational" then? Or, to put it another way, if a person values socialism and works towards those ends why is it regarded as "irrational"?
  5. I apologize if my remarks came off like that. It wasn't the intent (or sentiments) of my comment. Please, correct my conception then because I'm not unwilling to hear your explanation.
  6. First, let me back up a bit and try to draw out the specific reason I presented the question and one of the main issues I have with the presuppositions that support a lot of the arguments on these forums. That is, the belief or expectation that man should be or can be or is expected to be perfectly rational. And that, man's failure to act rationally is the basis for disagreement (and a slew of other issues). If our expectation is that man act rationally then, I believe, this is an expectation that man act against his nature and insist that "A should not be A". In other words, it insists
  7. And what measure would you use to determine what is rational? If you value liberty then capitalism is certainly rational. But, if you value self-sacrifice than communism is "rational". EDIT: Actually, better yet. Go ahead and let's pretend that I am a socialist and explain, without using any value statements to make your case, why I'm not acting rationally.
  8. Not really. I meant what I said. I'm curious what factors influenced her. It's the same question that a fan may ask a musician, "What artists influenced your song-writing?".
  9. My wife drove a Hyundai Santa Fe for 3-4 years and loved it. A close friend just bought the Kia minivan (sorry, can't recall the name) and while it's not a Toyota or Honda it's a good value (decent car at a fair price).
  10. Friends, I would like to propose a debate and the subject of abortion. While I recognize this is a "touchy" subject, the source of a lot of pain, frustration, political disagreement and strife, I feel that it is, if done properly, an important issue to Objectivism and western society. I'm seeking someone who shares these views but is pro-choice (I will be arguing from the pro-life perspective so this is kinda a requirement as the debate wouldn't be very helpful if we agreed) and willing to defend their position in a structured, rule-based debate. If you're interested, feel you h
  11. Blah! Now I deleted my thread. My question was on the status of the Debate forum and whether it was closed down or I merely have not been approved to post there. I attempted to edit the post noting that this topic was mistakenly posted under the more general topic of "Culture". I accidentally deleted my original post when attempting to make that edit.
  12. Well, softwareNerd, what is the verdict? Can personal experience and historical context affect a person's belief?
  13. @ Eiuol, I completely agree with what you wrote, including the distinction you offered.
  14. SoftwareNerd, I'm glad that we're now saying what we mean and meaning what we say. :-) If you disagree with me that our personal and historical context impacts our beliefs feel free to say so and offer an argument why. I'm not opposed (in fact, I favor it) to being told I may be mistaken. I started the thread not realizing that there would be people who disagreed with the idea that I believed were pretty much common knowledge - that no one is exempt from cognitive biases (or insight) formed from personal and historical context that may impact their beliefs. I was obviously foolish in
  15. Sure. What in particular would you like to know? Moreover, do you have anything to offer on the subject of the thread?
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