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  1. 10 minutes ago, monart said:

    Yes, I've read this article before, with its mutually contradictory debunkings. At the same time that it throws out links to papers that claims/appears to have isolated and purified SARS-CoV-2 (and "therefor" the virus does exist), it also links to another article that acknowledges that modern microbiology does not require or practice virus isolation or purification and thus the FOI mo-records-found.  The link to images show pictures with little or no captions describing what the pictures are about, besides the title, "SARS-CoV-2" and the other few words like "related to" and "models of". This is far from being an adequate debunking.

    Suppose that somewhere there is documentation of isolation, purification, and identification of SARS-CoV-2 showing beyond a reasonable doubt that the novel virus exists (or existed). If so, the next claim is unproven, that it causes "Severe" and "Acute" respiratory illnesses and deaths that are new and extra to the usual respiratory illnesses and deaths from other causes (including non-microbial causes like pollution and malnutrition) or from various co-morbidities like asthma or old age. Then there are the other challenges to the accuracy of PCR tests as diagnostic tools, the reliability of the covid case numbers, the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine, the legality and morality of mask mandates and lockdowns, and so on.

    Grant that current microbiology may not be advanced yet to easily, definitively identify new viruses (or even "old" ones), so that it's only expected to yield only percentages of probability that such and such virus exists and has such and such identity. On the frontiers of research, in highly specialized fields, this may be normal and acceptable science. In most cases, this exploratory, vanguard research is of interest or relevance to the specialists and not to most others. But when such provisional findings or claims are quickly used to justify a declaration of a pandemic and the subsequent global tyranny, then suspicions about deception and malice could arise.

    Suppose in a court trial, an accused murderer is convicted, based on the accused being the closest one among a crowd gathered around the victim, and on the accused resembling some other convicted murderers on record. No murder weapon linked to the accused was found, nor any witnesses to the murder when it happened. Yet the judge and jury pronounced the accused guilty and sentenced to death or to life-imprisonment, depending on the jurisdiction. Is this a fair trial?

    I believe you may have misunderstood my implication, I posted a link to an easily found article ie an article someone that 'googled it' would find rather quickly. The article debunks claims made that call into question the 'existence' of a specific 'covid viron' via 'scientific techniques' by questioning the rigor of the techniques and the assumptions that the rigor shown is the amount of rigor to categorically claim the existence thereof.

    CM is also questioning the rigor , to what end ? If she and her cohorts 'prove' the nonexistence of the covid viron by not accepting the current amount of rigor or the adequacy of the techniques in establishing that rigor, what benefit do they stand to attain ? What is a motivation we can ascribe to their actions, financial or reputational advancement of scientific knowledge ?

    What motivation might we ascribe to a guy who heads the company that compiled, published and 'fact checked' the article that  'googling' readily presents? He also sits on the board of a company that gained financially and reputationally, by saving humanity, based on the existence of said specific viron, which the article claims to prove.

  2. 31 minutes ago, necrovore said:

    Because the standard of proof is lower in civil trials -- "preponderance of the evidence" instead of "beyond a reasonable doubt."

    You may remember they found no shortage of people who were "raped" by Kavanaugh, too. Or by Julian Assange. Or by Russell Brand. Anybody who is inconvenient to the government.

    The law under which Trump was convicted had been modified recently in order to make convictions like that possible.

    By modification, do you mean a special exemption was applied to the statute of limitations involving sexual crimes , but that the extension was ‘sun setted’ or that after this calendar year the limitations are to be reimposed?

    And if this is that situation , then the victim in this case was if not instrumental at least involved in lobbying the New York legislatures to implement the exemptions. She is basically a hero citizen!

  3. Did several states’ legislative houses change election procedures that some have challenged as unconstitutional and against common sense as well, or were/are those arguments only hyperbole?

  4. 27 minutes ago, Doug Morris said:

    Can you be more specific about what Harris said and what the BLM people did?

     

    The interview is available on the greater webs, and there was a lot of commentary on her statements at the time. Do you not remember the kerfuffle or were you never aware ? It was around the same time she was personally promoting the idea for people to donate to fund bail for rioters that were arrested in places like Kenosha.

    As to what the rioters were doing? Are you honestly asking because you are unaware of the actions or is it you disagree with the characterization?

  5. 10 hours ago, Doug Morris said:

    Trump stirred up threats and harassment against innocent election workers, driving at least some of them to quit.

    He also stirred up tampering with the system that made it harder for some people to vote and easier for politicians to interfere.

    He stirred up the Jan. 6 insurrection.

     

    What violent rioters?  What indication of further violence?

     

    Harris was on Late Night with Stephen Colbert praising the actions of the BLM rioters and explaining how it should be realized that those actions would/should continue until they feel their demands have been met, you know basically how democracy works.

    The show aired in March and in May and June the rioters were busy burning DC and storming government buildings , remember when they forced the Secret Service to move Trump into ‘the bunker’ , what a hoot, she basically called for it. She got 81 million votes too right ?

  6. Trump's 'attack' on the election system was to point out that allowing for procedural changes to balloting would open the potential for fuckery in the counting of ballots. And then claimed such fuckery happened. He also exhausted all legal remedies to stall the confirmation of the electoral college results, which is not an attack in the sense you seem to mean.

    As to orderly transfer of power, what did Trump do to illegally impede the transfer?

    Trump's election opposition on the other hand congratulated the violent rioters through out the country and gave every public indication that further violence should be expected, tolerated and welcomed until their demands were met. Biden was legally recognized as the winner of the election, based on the idea that the election was free, fair and transparent and was sworn in on Jan 21 st in DC with 30k federal troops present.

  7. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2LS27P/

    Easy to find article, plainly debunks the idea that SARS-CoV 2 virus was not  isolated or purified. Reuters fact checker team declares a false verdict on a story about a Canadian doctor claiming the virus was never isolated and that the identification the medical officials and pharma companies used as evidence was basically a mish mash of RNA and other materials commonly found 'in' human bodies.

    Now as to conspiracy hypothesis, what does Chrissy have to gain from the fight she is picking? (Because the CEO of Thomson Reuters, who  also sits on the Pfizer board and works very closely with World Economic Forum, does have a dog in the fight and a fact checking team to back him up.)

     

  8. 2 hours ago, AlexL said:

    No, it seems that I didn't. Can you please explain? (I do know what "bs" is, though.😁)

    It has to do with the idea that ‘non-sterilizing’ or less than 100% transmission blocking vaccines should not be mass administered due to mutation forcing. And the associated downstream effects of ‘vaccine/immune’ escape would be a net negative for mitigation and disease control going forward.
     

    An ideal situation would be one in which a population was isolated and inoculated prior to infection appearance which was not the situation circa vaccine roll out.

    The fact that ‘officials’ were suggesting that the ‘best’ mitigation efforts were those that pushed the idea of vaccinating the highest percentage of global populations in the initial wave(s) contradicted my understanding of what was or could be considered best practices of the sciences of virology and immunology. 
    Not to mention the idea of mass inoculation with a novel platform! mRNA shots highjack healthy cells to produce proteins alien to the host and the targeted production was aimed at multiplying a serotoxic protein, a wholly different strategy than other immunization techniques, but somehow that was the ‘best’ solution?

  9. 23 minutes ago, AlexL said:

    Are you capable to distinguish a science, virology, from [forced] mass inoculation, which is politics?

    "Virology practices" I was mentioning are laboratory practices and standards. But you understood this very well...

    I like virology, along with most sciences, that's how I could tell the response from the 'officials' was bs, I'm sure you arrived at the same conclusion, yes ?

  10. 9 hours ago, DavidOdden said:

    . First, was there a disease (or class of…) – can we rationally be Holocaust-deniers about the event? I say no, it happened, details of the disease are of lesser importance. The second question is what the government should have done, and that is pretty obvious at least here: nothing. The function of government is not disease control. ....

     

    I think there is an immediate third step, find the origin and assess the likely-hood of similar 'outbreaks'.

  11. 20 minutes ago, monart said:

    Intentionally, accidentally, from bats, from labs -- it's irrelevant to the fundamental question: Where is the documentation that SARS=CoV2 has been isolated, purified, and identified?

    I make the inference from the direct evidence of the funding for research into gain of function. Granted that research in and of itself does not ‘prove’ the existence of a specific virus. But in nd of itself , it certainly strongly points to fuckery, yeah ?

  12. That blog post describes in general how viruses ‘work’ , even the mechanism by which the corona virus in question binds to the  human ACE2 receptor site. But it doesn’t explain how a virus from a bat that doesn’t use a bat ACE2 receptor site evolved so quickly and with such affinity to that site in humans. There was/is speculation that a chimera virus was assembled with the needed furin cleavage site to facilitate such affinity, but blogs posts suggesting those types of analysis would be more ‘in the weeds’ and not for the laymen as this blog example is expressly targeted.

    Intentionally released or not , it is obvious that Covid was the product of virus fuckery.

  13. Stephen

    Our nephew was dating or ‘with’ (whatever the kids say these days) a girl who claimed to be trans , and it was obvious that he was using the situation as a way to garner from his peers a certain level of social credit or esteem. He was/is a little awkward socially and never really quite ‘fit in’, but I assume he built a ‘better’ reputation or felt he did by very public displays of devotion and acceptance via daily social media postings.

    Another girl I know of from a family we were close to ‘growing up’ is claiming a trans identity and the adults are bending over backwards to accommodate and accept her claims. They live in and around the ‘Hollywood scene’ , as her father is a successful and ‘known’ for his contributions and creations in the ‘business’. 
     

    So you are right in that I do not have any personal experience with an adult that has ‘transitioned’. But the little personal interactions with the subject have had has shown the idea of ‘trans’ and acting on the supposed impulses is rather tightly correlated with a broader social recognition and by Rand’s standards very much a purposeful seeking of self serving second handedness.

    I did see an interview with what I gathered was a ‘famous’ contemporary trans person from the UK. The person explained that they were aware that ‘being in the wrong body’ was a psychological problem , a mental illness that caused their  personal happiness and relationship with the world in general to suffered from it. Using medical and other interventions helped the person to feel better , but the person stated they knew they had not ‘become’ a woman , just that trying to approximate that situation allowed them to experience a more comfortable way of being and I say more power to that person.

    As to biologically based psychological roles or types and their commonalities, there was a study of one of the Scandinavian populations that showed after like a decade of social engineering to dissuade the zeitgeist away from the effects of sexual dimorphism and their societal outcomes , the outcomes in jobs and professional choices reverted to the ‘old regime’. After purposely removing any ‘stigma’ about choice making as played out in some patriarchal scheme , the statistical breakdown of job/careers as identified along ‘the old’ ‘gender based’ regimes played itself out , almost like it was based on biology rather than some form of social engineering. Girls by and large choose girl things and so too, by and large with boys. Overall empathy is more closely associated with feminine attitudes and other such trite stereotypes, go figure.

    The whole branching off onto this tangent was precipitated by the ‘cult’ reference of the OP and my pointing to the Foucaultian nihilism and queering of the West.

    Trump 2024

     

  14. Stephen

    My point wasn't about how one should treat their fellow human as they know them in life, btw kindness is always the rule, yeah? It isn't about 'sides' either, but barring extreme chromosomal abnormalities , a person is not ever 'in the wrong body'( here I would refer to hermaphroditic situation and wrong would denote ambiguous genitalia). People may have a psychological make up that causes them to feel that way , but that is an entirely individual consequence as in it pertains to the one.

    The reason I bring the trans 'issue' up , is to point to the fact that the 'adults' in the room are running around naming you cisgendered ( a term btw I think derived from organic chemistry in order to describe and sort certain molecular structure differences among fatty acids) as if it is a ' thing'. 

    The same 'adults' in positions of power in society, in a society that still gives lip service to principled thinking to justify their actions. Official government documents should contain and pertain to actual facts. Just as that press release named Manning as a female, not a fact, it states allegations against Assange as fact, which facts should we determine are true and how?

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