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  1. kesg

    Abortion

    I love your sig. I wrote all that in a big hurry after accidentally losing a much longer and more carefully reasoned response -- insert here -- but the point I'm trying to get across is that biologically and metaphysically the fetus is a separate entity from its mother, even though it is physically connected to its mother. One isn't a part of the other, in the sense that a heart or lungs are part of the mother's body. The more general problem here is that there is more than one referent of the phrase "human being." My opponents on this thread have essesntially used this phrase to
  2. kesg

    Abortion

    I had prepared a long response to this post, and just as I was about to finish it I accidentally deleted it. I don't want to spend another hour or two attempting to recreate what I wrote. Besides, I need to leave here for a few hours. So let me give you the short version instead (I'll elaborate if and when requested later today): 1. I disagree with everything you said in the first paragraph. Moreover, it is personally offensive. I have already explained myself in an earlier post. I don't think I insulted anyone, and I know I didn't intend to insult anyone. Period. 2. I strongl
  3. kesg

    Abortion

    My disagreement was with your accusations that I had made any logical fallacies, not with the notion that straw man attacks are "not rational." Incidentally, this response is itself an example context-dropping, which is a type of logical fallacy according to Objectivism.
  4. kesg

    Abortion

    Obviously I disagree. This is going nowhere.
  5. kesg

    Abortion

    I didn't say what you are quoting -- you know, the part just above the part where you accuse me of attacking a straw man.
  6. kesg

    Abortion

    Please rephrase your question in some form other than "when will you stop beating your wife" and I'll do my best to answer it. What specific ideas do you want me to respond to?
  7. kesg

    Abortion

    The person you mentioned is absolutely correct. I have re-assessed a great many things since four or five years ago when I think what you are referring to actually happened back on HPO. I really regret some of the things I said, and of course I hope that others do, too.
  8. kesg

    Abortion

    It does exist inside the womb. It isn't a question of existence versus non-existence, but existence in one place versus existence in another place.
  9. kesg

    Abortion

    Well, don't do that. If I see a good argument here, or think of a new one myself, or come to think that I have made a mistake, I'll let you know. I promise.
  10. kesg

    Abortion

    Let me ask you a question here about your hypothetical. At what point in the pregnancy is the woman taking the medicine, and for what purpose? Generally, I don't think that any issue regarding rights even comes into play until the point at which the fetus becomes viable (if not later). At this point, the mother has rights, the fetus arguably has rights, and the mother has, by allowing the pregnancy to proceed up to this point (we are talking approximately six months into the pregnancy, i.e near the end of the second trimester) without getting an abortion, assumed parental obligations --
  11. kesg

    Abortion

    Okay... Here is where you lose me. Biologically, the viable fetus is human just before birth; e.g., it has human DNA, human organs, a human brain, etc. and can exist as a human outside the womb. You lose me here, too. Most important, the fetus is certainly physically attached to the woman's body, but it is not a part of her body, but, biologically, a separate living entity, with its own separate skin, brain, blood, organs, bones, DNA, etc. [Note: Again, I am talking only about a viable fetus -- I am not suggesting that prior to this time, the fetus is anything other than a pot
  12. I would say that what differentiates an Objectivist from others is a person's understanding and acceptance of Rand's theory of concepts as set forth in ITOE, which leads directly to the view of objectivity set forth in Chapter 4 of OPAR. In my opinion, Ayn Rand was essentially hinting this conclusion in her June 20, 1958 journay entry (see Journals of Ayn Rand at page 699-700).
  13. kesg

    Abortion

    Exactly. As Rand herself said, "One may argue about the later stages of a pregnancy, but the essential issue concerns only the first three months."
  14. kesg

    Abortion

    So I have been repeatedly told. These are assertions, not arguments. No. It has been repeatedly asserted, but not shown. This argument is, in fact, a textbook example of circular reasoning and, more specifically, the type of circular reasoning that involves phrasing the argument so that the premise and conclusion say the same thing in two slightly different ways (i.e. saying that only born human beings have rights because only physically independent human beings have rights). Virtually every standard textbook on logic covers this variation of circular reasoning.
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