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Mr. Wynand

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I am surprised actually, Obama has the reputation of being *extremely* anti-gun.

Responding to the title rather than the specifics, there are four or five things that would have to happen before I'd really become concerned that he is intent on dictatorship (rather than creeping "democratic" socialism or even galloping "democratic" socialism). One of them is passing some sort of gun law that effectively disarms the citizenry.

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I am surprised actually, Obama has the reputation of being *extremely* anti-gun.

Responding to the title rather than the specifics, there are four or five things that would have to happen before I'd really become concerned that he is intent on dictatorship (rather than creeping "democratic" socialism or even galloping "democratic" socialism). One of them is passing some sort of gun law that effectively disarms the citizenry.

I was also surprised. Maybe it's because they get a substantial amount of money from the selling of this brass, or maybe they realize that with the way the U.S. Military uses ammunition, it would be better to resell it for 'environmental' reasons.

I'm not too worried about the coming weapons restrictions, yet. I think things will just return to Clinton era, cosmetic type, gun regulations. Regulations against Hi-Cap mags and certain ammunition will also probably be re-instated. Who knows though, maybe it will be a real ban against these weapons instead of the emotional placating that probably motivated the previous regulations. It's been a couple of years since I've went to a gun-show, I just may go and get something before regulations force prices up or certain products actually become banned.

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There is a bill out there (HB 45 IIRC) that would impose mandatory nationwide registration and make it illegal to leave a loaded gun where children might possibly get to it--with the government allowed to pull surprise inspections (because you registered the gun). That would render the firearm useless for home defense.

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There is a bill out there (HB 45 IIRC) that would impose mandatory nationwide registration and make it illegal to leave a loaded gun where children might possibly get to it--with the government allowed to pull surprise inspections (because you registered the gun). That would render the firearm useless for home defense.

Can't wait to see the definitions in that bill. Is this registration for new guns or all guns? For new guns they already have a system, the NICS, they would just need to change their collection policies. In their restrictions against loaded weapons they will probably include ammunition available within a certain distance of the gun. As far as I'm concerned, once a child reaches a certain age he will have a good chance of getting a hold of a parents gun if he really wants to, unless it's hidden extravagantly or physically barred--locks & safes--from the child.

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