Rearden_Steel Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 (edited) Victims' family members and advocates are grieving anew as the only man convicted in the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland -- which killed 270 people -- was released Thursday from a British prison. Most families outraged at Pan Am 103 bomber's release Wow. What can I say except Scotland sucks. Edited August 20, 2009 by Rearden_Steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'kian Posted August 20, 2009 Report Share Posted August 20, 2009 He also got a hero's welcome in Lybia. Either thousands of lybians do regard him as a hero and decided to stage a public show of support, or the Colonel made them. I don't know which possibility is more disturbing. There are no words to define this latest outrage. Showing compassion is all well and good, to those who deserve it. This murderous bastard deserves lots fo thigns, but not one speck of compassion. It's also a good argument for the death penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearden_Steel Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Obama requested that the Libyan government keep the homecoming low key and out of sight. Instead they had a huge celebration waiting for him. Here is a video of his homecoming celebration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake_Ellison Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Is there anyone taking responsibility for this decision, or are the people who arranged his release hiding behind bureaucracy, like cowards? CNN doesn't seem to mention a single name, just "governments". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Is there anyone taking responsibility for this decision, or are the people who arranged his release hiding behind bureaucracy, like cowards? CNN doesn't seem to mention a single name, just "governments". Wolf Blitzer interviewed the Scottish Justice responsible. I saw his name was 'MacAskill', but I didn't hear the interview. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearden_Steel Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 (edited) Here is the transcript of the CNN interview with the official who released him. Blitzer: Do you realize that you've made their grief so much more powerful right now because they see the picture of this guy walking on a plane and flying back home to Libya where he is about to be received with a hero's welcome? MacAskill: I've released a sick man. The medical evidence given to me in a report dated 10th August by the Scottish Prison Service says that he's terminally ill. That is a sentence that I cannot impose in Scotland, no court could. We do not have the death penalty. It's final, terminal and irrevocable. That sentence that he now faces cannot be revoked by any court or overruled by any jurisdiction. I have decided to allow him to go home to die. I am showing his family some compassion. I accept there was a compassion not shown to families in the United States, or in Scotland. But we have values, we will not debase them, and we will seek to live up to those values of humanity that we pride ourselves on. He was brought to justice after tremendous -- what, not simply by Scottish police and prosecution authorities, but by the United States. Equally, as I say, in Scotland, justice is tempered with compassion. And that, as I say, is why he has been allowed to go home to die. Apparently in Scotland "compassion" trumps justice and the perpetrators are to receive more compassion then their victims. What kind of disgusting and corrupt place this must be where terrorist have more rights then their victims. Edited August 21, 2009 by Rearden_Steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapereAude Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Here is the transcript of the CNN interview with the official who released him. Apparently in Scotland "compassion" trumps justice and the perpetrators are to receive more compassion then their victims. What kind of disgusting and corrupt place this must be where terrorist have more rights then their victims. Well of course they do- this is a nation that took all its citizens' guns away! A nation that sinks to that level of depravity.. well? I feel very badly for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Dying in prison with terminal cancer is the same as death penalty? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
synrose Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 Dying in prison with terminal cancer is the same as death penalty? What? Seconded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kainscalia Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 But we have values, we will not debase them He should have added "And because values are valuable, we're applying them to everybody indiscriminately!" There is a German word that translates to "a face in need of a fist", and boy this is one if I've ever heard of any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyco Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 I think the general feeling in Scotland (eg. among the legal profession) is that the trial/verdict was a sham and the man should never have been locked up, but the governments colluded to ensure that he was for some reason. So therefore, he's being released on compassionate grounds because they think his incarceration is unfair, or that the appeal (which he'll never live to know) would have cleared his name. Of course, they can't SAY as much because it would undermine the reputation of the justice system, so they just give this vague 'country of values' answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mixon Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 "You have sacrificed justice to mercy.." -John Galt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadkat Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 I think the general feeling in Scotland (eg. among the legal profession) is that the trial/verdict was a sham and the man should never have been locked up, but the governments colluded to ensure that he was for some reason. So therefore, he's being released on compassionate grounds because they think his incarceration is unfair, or that the appeal (which he'll never live to know) would have cleared his name. Of course, they can't SAY as much because it would undermine the reputation of the justice system, so they just give this vague 'country of values' answer. I've heard this excuse too. Someone has mentioned to me that they think he was unjustly convicted and not the bomber. If that's really what's going on here, they should say so. Otherwise, we have to assume that he was in fact guilty of this terrible crime, in which case he really should not have been allowed to live as long as he has anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearden_Steel Posted August 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) Found this article in the Telegraph: The release of the Lockerbie bomber was linked to trade deals between Britain and Libya, Col Muammar Gaddafi’s son, claimed last night. Apparently the decision by Scottish ministers to free the biggest mass murderer in British legal history was to form a deal with a corrupt terrorist state that has already funded murder on Scottish territory. Edited August 22, 2009 by Rearden_Steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelconservative Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 It is now seven months after his release supposedly because he had "three months to live." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmoProbos Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 She's come such a long way from defying tyranny at Bannockburn. She's come such a long way from Adam Smith. She's come such a long way from freedom. What happened to my Scotland of 1314? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joojie Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 I wwould like to make one thing clear. The man was wrongly convicted.He should have never been convicted, and was aloud to return home on "compasionant grounds" to die of his incurable bowle cancer. he should not have been sent home on "compasionant grounds", but by virtue of his innocence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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