DragonMaci

I have to wonder why Frank and Barbara would agree to it the way they did. I cannot see why anyone would do that and I wonder about anyone that would agree.

You misunderstand what Kendall said. He is saying it is justice if she earns it through providing you with surplus (assuming she doen it rationally).

That is not what I was saying. I was not saying that isn't altruism. I was saying Mother's Day is not necessarily altruistic and can be celebrated in a selfish manner. With the way she treats me now I am starting to think my mum no longer deserves it.

That only means they are altruistic, not that Mother's Day is.

Firstly, Frank did know about the affair. In fact she asked him if it was okay before getting involved, just as Branden asked his wife first. Both agreed. Secondly, Branden lied to her about the third woman. That is quite different to how Branden and Rand were honest with their partners about the affair. Also, that lie lead Rand to realise he had been deceiving her in other ways and that he was not an Objectivist after all.

No, it is not. Read the above reply posts for why it is not.

A&R Whitcoulls (an NZ and Australian owned book chain) just bought the Australian, New Zealand, and Singaporean subsidiaries of Borders and the right to keep those stores as Borders.

Actually there are commercial versions of Linux (eg, Red Hat Linux). But to answer your question, I agree with the earlier posts that state it is okay to let others use the OS for free. As the most recent one said, they get something from it by having some of the users donate time or money to further developing the OS.

We have several organizations doing that for food here in NZ even though we have a food equivalent of the FDA (we do have a drug equivalent but it is separate). For example, the Heart Foundation does a Heart Foundation Tick for foods it certifies that pass its standards.I don't know for sure, but I assume the Heart Foundation charges a fee so that they can cover there costs and get some additional funding for their other activities.

Outlet stores are something different in NZ. An outlet store here would be something like Borders* having a main shop in the Auckland CBD and a smaller store with a much smaller selection in another part of the Auckland CBD but close by. The smaller store is run by the manager(s) of the main store. (Note: that is a real example; the main Auckland Borders store is on Queen Street and the Borders Outlet Store is on a street off Queen Street.) What you describe an outlet store as is called a factory shop here in NZ. * Yes, the same one you refered to. NZ has 5 Borders stores.

Well, the only outlet stores I see are for things like books where the selections are crap in the outlet stores. By the way, what is an outlet mall?

I didn't mean regulation of advances. I meant broad reaching regulations of the electronics industry or with Atlas Shrugged style legislation. In fact no; I never heard of them. Indeed. In that case it is worth waiting a week to a month for the sale since you know it will happen. There is also the New Year sales, mid-year sales, and sales on other public holidays. Here in NZ the stores tend to have plenty left for their Boxing Day and New Year sales and they tend to be better deals than their Christmas deals. Here in NZ we just have outlet shops and they tend not to have the things I am looking for.

I meant in a rational society. Rational people won't elect incompetent people.

I would think it would have to purchase or rent the property off a private land owner.

Or one of the city states. But even then it might be better to split the city into districts in terms of police and court jurisdiction.

Don't underestimate them. They can do it. Atlas Shrugged shows us how. I had to replace my HDD because several chips on it were fried. As for Vista, I've had no major problems with it. To be fair I didn't ahve much legacy hardware (just one printer and a mouse). I had trouble with the HP keyboard, which wanted to open iTunes whenever I hit the "alt" key (and I hit the "alt" key a lot to access menus). I couldn't fix it, but it finally went away when I switched to my old keyboard (the older one has wrist-rests). As far as I can tell most of the Vista-specific ones are about driver/software incompatibility issues which the user could of fixed themselves if they'd bother to check for an update. Or things like UAC nagging too much. The anti-Gates and anti-Microsoft statements are not Vista specific; they Windows specific (notice that the same sentiments are not raised as much with other MS software, such as Visual Studio, Windows Live Messenger, Expression Studio, etc). Of course. The point was that it is unavoidable that one will miss something one wants or needs being cheaper than when one bought it, even if it is just a sale.

Incompetents are extremely unlikely to get elected to government just like they are extremely unlikely to get elected to the board of a business.

No, but then maybe that is because we tend not to have much choice in New Zealand. I have heard people things that mean little choice is the same as no choice, though, That is a fallacy people have because they cannot be bothered considering all of the options. There is no real limit. It simply takes more time and effort when there is more options. If anything with advances like optical processors, carbon fibre nanotube chips, etc all getting ever closer to fruition computers will accelerate their rapid improvements. Advancements like these could see Moore's Law become pessimistic. plan and paid $1,200 for the phone. Not quite 15 months later I traded my Nokia for a Motorola star-tac flip phone for free! Actually, government regulations could make that possible. Government regulations could turn the electronics industry into another one of the go nowhere industries that used to have rapid progress. However, as it stands there is little regulations in regards to development of electronics hardware, making it a comparatively free industry, hence its rapid innovations. I also bought Vista when it first came out, but for a different reason; I had to replace the hard drive and buy an OS for it, so I got Vista because it seemed better than XP to me. I was right. From my experience even when it first came out while it did have some issues it was nowhere near as bad as most people thought. Most software and driver incompatabilities could be fixed by updating the software/driver. Also, many of the OS based issues could be easily fixed or worked around if one made the effort to figure out or learn how. In short, Vista was not so bad as people thought; it was mostly user laziness and/or stupidity. The anti-Vista attitude is part of a widespread anti-technology attitude, which is a part of the anti-progress attitude, an attitude your acquaintance has. That sort of thing happens a lot to me; I buy something and then days later or a week later it is on special. This is especially common with food or drink treats, ie, things I get rarely and can afford to hold off on. They are context dropping. They are dropping the context that there will always be better (unless the market is heavily regulated) and the context that their decision has to be about getting the best possible within their means when they need/want it.

That makes a lot of sense. My farm example above is also a perfect example of that. I'd start off small, but I'd gradually expand until I had 100+ acres, all of which I'd of incorporated into the town's limits. That won't work in all countries. In many countries, eg, NZ, the system has no room for that. The smallest level of government in NZ incorporates tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of people and the laws don't allow it the leeway to do as Seeker proposes. Only a change to the national system would change that.

We should always be greatful for the things we have, but that involves thinking of the positives of today (eg: cars, computers, ovens, hot water cylinders, planes, electricity generators and power stations, etc), not thinking of the negatives pf the past that no longer exist in the developed nations.

That is a very good suggestion. I think it'd help a lot. Especially if enough money could be raised for internet, TV, and radio ads. Internet ads would be easy, especially if one used Google's , Yahoo!'s, and Microsoft's text ad services, as they are all quite cheap. (Yes, I do mean all three; that way would get more exposure than just using one would, just like advertising on more than one TV channel or more than one radio station would.) Also, I think it'd help if at least some of the 20 bought in would be people that could employ other people, especially if it means bringing in people from other areas. If the town grew economically and population wise at a fast rate because of highly productive people that created employment for others it'd help spread the message. An example of this would be me with my horse farm, though the example relies on this idea not being done for quite some time. I'd pretty quickly need to hire others to help me with my horses. Also, since breeding is one of the things I plan to do I would bring in a lot of money from outside the state, potentially even from outside the US. In fact if I do well enough people from all other the world would come to my farm to buy horses from me and in the process see the how well the town is doing. I used myself as an example because it is the only one I know and because it is a perfect example of how someone highly productive that drew in others would help the cause both through the success and money he'd bring into the town and the extra people he'd expose to the ideas and the result of implementing those ideas. I think the idea needs something like this if it is to work at all.

Of course, but I think it is necessary. I understand that, but my point is that I think the proposal involves starting too small for it to be effective, so I proposed starting a larger [but still small] scale.

I think if it is to work it needs to start on a larger scale so that the effects are larger more obvious

Actually since I was pointing out an error in a comment in this thread, the detour must of happened in the post I replied to if at all since that post set up the new topic not me. No to both of you. Nothing can justify the initiation of force. Only retaliatory force is justified.

I doubt many people would learn from it; most people tend to evade learning from situations that conflict with their views of what is the best system.