gags Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Clinton is an incredible hypocrite and a fantastic liar. Frankly, I couldn't care less about his opinion(s) on any issue of importance - including the war in Iraq. I agree with Horowitz, the man is a disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearden_Steel Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 Clinton is an incredible hypocrite and a fantastic liar. Frankly, I couldn't care less about his opinion(s) on any issue of importance - including the war in Iraq. I agree with Horowitz, the man is a disgrace. I agree, by no means am I a fan of Clinton or the Democrats. I don’t think questioning the war makes him despicable though. There are plenty of other good reasons to dislike Clinton. I have noticed that most people here are focused mostly on the left, is Bush, Cheney and the right any less despicable? 'Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?' - George Bush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgessLau Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 He did not point out why Clinton thought the war was wrong, and why his stance is wrong. He gave a one sided argument and seemed to be insinuating that the act of questioning the war and the government was wrong. What do you mean by a "one sided argument"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearden_Steel Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 What do you mean by a "one sided argument"? Here he shows Clinton is questioning the war: “ Instead of words of praise for their heroism and gratitude for their sacrifice, you tell them the war they are fighting is a mistake.” Here he list the positive things resulting from the war: “It is a mistake for them to be risking their lives in the service of their country. It is a mistake for them to be fighting for Iraqis' freedom. It is a mistake for them to be defending innocent people against terrorists who behead the innocent, who declare democracy to be evil and who have sworn to kill every Iraqi citizen who has had the audacity to vote.” But why is Clinton questioning the war? He does not say. Only thing he portrays is that the war is a positive thing and that Clinton is wrong for questioning it; hence, a one sided argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gags Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 No matter what one thinks about whether we should have gone to war, there is something particularly despicable about a former president who goes to a foreign country and criticizes our efforts in the middle of a conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Nate Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 He did not point out why Clinton thought the war was wrong, and why his stance is wrong. He gave a one sided argument and seemed to be insinuating that the act of questioning the war and the government was wrong. If you went around questioning the war, it would be one thing. But former Presidents have to show more discretion. Worse, for him to do it in a foreign, Arab land it's just disgraceful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softwareNerd Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 I agree. It is absolutelym despicable for an ex commander-in-cheif to be speaking against this war. For him to do so in Dubai is pandering . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 (edited) If George Washington were alive today, I'm sure he'd have plenty of non-complimentary things to say about American military policy over the last 100 years. I'm not sure why having once been commander-in-chief should prevent you from critizising the policies of those who come after you. The Iraq war has been an unmitigated disaster, so its not like Clinton is saying anything particularly controversial or incorrect (although having said that, Clinton doesnt exactly have the moral authority to criticise anyone elses dubious wars after his involvement in Sudan). On a sidenote, whats wrong with Dubai? I dont claim to know that much about it, but while it obviously isnt a capitalist paradise, it doubt that deserves to be grouped alongside Saudi Arabia and Iran. It seems like a relatively westernized country, and not one which has a history of terrorist involvement. Edited November 26, 2005 by Hal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIJamesHughes Posted December 30, 2005 Report Share Posted December 30, 2005 I really dislike John Kasich ( from "Heartland" on Fox. A while back a woman was on his show condeming the Republican party for its lack of integrity to its own principles. She wrote a book on the topic. All John said was "well, consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds," and she said "yeah, thats true." It makes me wonder why she wrote the book at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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