Blacks learn from Rap Lyrics, not from Books

[adrock3215]

Anyone else see this garbage put out by Jeremiah Wright the other day? There was a WSJ piece on it April 30th here. Here are some of the more absurd quotes...

At the NAACP meeting, Mr. Wright proudly propounded the racist contention that blacks have inherently different "learning styles," correctly citing as authority for this view Janice Hale of Wayne State University. Pursuing a Ph.D. by logging long hours in the dusty stacks of a library, Mr. Wright announced, is "white." Blacks, by contrast, cannot sit still in class or learn from quiet study, and they have difficulty learning from "objects" — books, for example — but instead learn from "subjects," such as rap lyrics on the radio. These differences are neurological, according to Ms. Hale and Mr. Wright: Whites use what Mr. Wright referred to as the "left-wing, logical and analytical" side of their brains, whereas blacks use their "right brain," which is "creative and intuitive." When he was of school age in Philadelphia following the Supreme Court's 1954 desegregation decision, Mr. Wright said, his white teachers "freaked out because the black children did not stay in their place, over there, behind the desk." Instead, the students "climbed up all over [the teachers], because they learned from a 'subject,' not an 'object.' " How one learns from a teacher as "subject" by climbing on her, as opposed to learning from her as "object" — by listening to her words — is a mystery.

Like Ms. Hale, Mr. Hilliard argued that disrupting the classroom through "impulsive interrupting and loud talking" is inherently black. His bogus Afrocentrism, propounded in his "African-American Baseline Essays," metastasized in educational circles during the late 1980s and early 1990s. Mr. Hilliard argued that Western civilization was at once stolen from black Africa and crippling to black identity. As the late Arthur M. Schlesinger recounted in his 1991 alarum about multiculturalism, "The Disuniting of America," Mr. Hilliard urged schools to teach black students that Egypt was a black country; that Africans invented birth control and carbon steel; that they discovered America long before Columbus did; that Robert Browning and Ludwig von Beethoven were "Afro-European"; and that the Atlantic Ocean was originally named the Ethiopian Ocean.

Whether or not Obama believes this or not I don't know. One must suspect that he subscribes to at least some of it. Over the last month or two, since Wright has come into the spotlight, I have concluded that Barack Obama is the most dangerous candidate for President who is currently running.

Edited May 2, 2008 by adrock3215

[EC]

...I have concluded that Barack Obama is the most dangerous candidate for President who is currently running.

I think all three are extremely dangerous this time around. This election scares me on many different levels because of how evil all the presidential contenders are this time around.

[K-Mac]

"Once you learn to read, you will be forever free."

— Frederick Douglass

[Thales]

You realize that is the same twisted, dishonest junk taught in universities every day? Jeremiah Wright is just echoing the multiculturalist dogma. I recently argued with a college educated person (Harvard, I think) who insisted that Egyptians were black, and that political and corporate America is run by whites. I may cut- from there and-paste his arguments here just to show you what we're up against. The later belief has some reason to it, but a little thinking shows it to be completely fallacious.

[Greebo]

I wonder which Rap lyrics gave "Rev" wright his degree in theology...

[TuringAI]

I don't know if this has been noted since then, but Obama has recently distanced himself from the pastor. Most likely he probably had some emotional attachment to him, but then realized that it would hurt his cause more than help it and that there was nothing in principle that made him worthy of attachment. I'm not saying that Obama completely disowned him, but I am saying he is moving in the right direction.

[Pyotr]

It's really disgusting that Jeremiah Wright thinks blacks are inferior. I can't imagine why anyone would look up to him.

[Benpercent]

I'm not saying that Obama completely disowned him, but I am saying he is moving in the right direction.

Not really. If you look at his past statements, he called this man his spiritual mentor. But, of course, people found out he was anti-America and racist, so suddenly Obama disagreed with what Wright said and tried to distance himself thusly.

The fact still remains that Obama's going to that one church for over twenty years means only one of two things:

1) Obama shares Wright's views (and is thus being a hypocrite and a liar).

or

2) Obama doesn't have a moral spine, shown by him not explicitly disagreeing with Wright aloud.

I think this controversy has just invoked an "oh snap" moment for Obama and he's just trying to change his image, not his substance.

[Mammon]

I don't know if this has been noted since then, but Obama has recently distanced himself from the pastor. Most likely he probably had some emotional attachment to him, but then realized that it would hurt his cause more than help it and that there was nothing in principle that made him worthy of attachment. I'm not saying that Obama completely disowned him, but I am saying he is moving in the right direction.

Obama said specifically that he does not subscribe to anything that Wright is saying right now.

[Mammon]

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idU...0080430?sp=true

[Greebo]

Gosh, if Rev Wright is RIGHT, and the Black really isn't capable of learning from books, then that would prove that Blacks are intellectually inferior, and it would be the moral duty of those of us who are, to re-enslave the black people for their own benefit, as we do with dogs and other domesticated animals.

Wright is clearly a buffoon.

[Thomas M. Miovas Jr.]

It's really disgusting that Jeremiah Wright thinks blacks are inferior. I can't imagine why anyone would look up to him.

It is a means of instilling servility in them, his followers, and he doesn't want them to pick up a book where they might learn that he is wrong. They would have to "be white" to disagree with him. And since Obama has more or less disowned him, get ready for many urban blacks to disown Obama because, "Mans, he jes be too white!"

[Thales]

I'm sorry, I didn't read the article when I wrote the posting above, but, hey, I had this sussed weeks ago. I pegged Wright for a multiculturalist back then, and even said that university professors across that land probably think Wright is too mild in his rhetoric.

Damn I'm good.

[Papes]

Barack Obama dangerous? I think not. Now, even with politicians being so horribly hypocritical and flip floppish, I would like to think that Obama hasn't lied to us. This time.

[adrock3215]

And since Obama has more or less disowned him, get ready for many urban blacks to disown Obama because, "Mans, he jes be too white!"

You hit this one on the head. From many of my black co-workers, I have heard that Obama is a "Sell out." Of course, many blacks have been saying this since Obama renounced Lou Farrakhan's endorsement. To some blacks, that gave them the notion that he was selling out to whites in order to get elected.

Barack Obama dangerous? I think not.

Actually he is. How can you be confident that this moron isn't in favor of reparations, or that he won't bring in Rev. Wright as the White House pastor? Obama is a Marxist. His entire campaign has been thematically organized around "Change" but he is nothing of the sort; he is a throwback to Bolshevism.

[fletch]

The fact still remains that Obama's going to that one church for over twenty years means only one of two things:

1) Obama shares Wright's views (and is thus being a hypocrite and a liar).

or

2) Obama doesn't have a moral spine, shown by him not explicitly disagreeing with Wright aloud.

I think this controversy has just invoked an "oh snap" moment for Obama and he's just trying to change his image, not his substance.

There is a third possibility and it flows from the following comment made by Obama at his press conference:

"The person that I saw yesterday was not the person that I met 20 years ago," Obama said. "His comments were not only divisive and destructive but I believe that they end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate."

If we take Obama at his word and believe that he is truly shocked, shocked by his former pastors beliefs, then what does that say about Obama's naivety and judgement (or lack of it)? If he can be so completely blind to the racist, anti-Americanism at the core of his so-called friend and spiritual advisor of 20 years, what sort of men will a Preisdent Obama select as his economic advisors? His foreign policy advisors? The thought of a government filled Jeremiah Wright types is horrifying.

[Mammon]

I think the thread can accurately be summed up that some of you guys believe Wrigtht=Obama on all circumstances. Beautiful.

[adrock3215]

I think the thread can accurately be summed up that some of you guys believe Wrigtht=Obama on all circumstances. Beautiful.

Or, more accurately: Wright=Obama in principle, which is all that matters anyway.

Edited May 5, 2008 by adrock3215

[Mammon]

Or, more accurately: Wright=Obama in principle, which is all that matters anyway.

No they don't. But you're not going to see that so I'm even going to bother arguing it. The point still remains valid, you guys refused to evaluate the two as seperate individuals.

[Thales]

I think the thread can accurately be summed up that some of you guys believe Wrigtht=Obama on all circumstances. Beautiful.

adrock3215 is right.

I think it can be summed up this way: Obama's ideology is largely in harmony with Wright's. He chose him as his spiritual mentor, which means that his thinking is what he influenced. He stuck with him for twenty years, and subjected his family to his sermons. He only got rid of him when there was political upheaval over him, i.e. it was for political expediency. The connection between the two is profound. But, Obama is connected with many other America haters.

While I saw through his mindless "hope" and "change" rhetoric of his early campaign, it was later revealed that he was associated with overt racists and anti-Americans, not to mention the fact that he is a flat-out socialist. So, I see that as his base ideology, but then on top of that he is deceptive and ruthless when it comes to friends and associates, willing to throw anyone over for power, including his grandmother and reverend he professed to love.

The main stream media have fallen all over themselves to evade reality and present Obama as something he is not. This is what they did with the Clinton's in the 1990s, btw. They just evaded anything negative and present a positive and distorted view of the man. In fact, what they do is present a positive and distorted view of Obama, and a negative and distorted view of his opponents. This is the way they operate.

[adrock3215]

No they don't. But you're not going to see that so I'm even going to bother arguing it. The point still remains valid, you guys refused to evaluate the two as seperate individuals.

I would be willing to entertain the notion. In your estimation, how do Wright and Obama fundamentally differ in principle?

[WarIs4Profit]

I would be willing to entertain the notion. In your estimation, how do Wright and Obama fundamentally differ in principle?

Wright has no experience working with honest caucasians; perhaps Obama has benefitted from his exploration of different social circles in the time since he and wright split paths.

My take on Wright is that his inflammatory speeches are the progeny of the preceding era, in which blacks were hated and feared by many powerful white people. It is possible that Obama, as a young man, has found it easier to forgive than his aged pastor. 20 years is a very long time; Someone who is fixated on the issues of that day would most likely seem like a radical, or a racist.