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The woman in your fantasy doesn't actually exist, you know that..right?

I'm not getting your reasoning here. You seem to be suggesting that it is okay to imagine something immoral because it isn't really happening. This brings us back full circle: Is it moral to imagine sex with a whore, a dog, a tree, or a child?

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I'll add one more comment because you have no evidence for what you're accusing me of. Take note that I never quoted Ayn Rand nor Dr. Peikoff, take note that all of my posts have strictly been introspective, especially my long one where I present my entire case. How I am "clearly" attempting to deduce from Rand and Peikoff when I've not even quoted them once? Did you even read my posts? I said "I can only validate my claim ostensively." Do you know what "ostensively" means? Please don't accuse others of things you have no evidence for. With that, my foolish friend, I end my last post in this thread where I address points made by you.

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I'm not getting your reasoning here. You seem to be suggesting that it is okay to imagine something immoral because it isn't really happening. This brings us back full circle: Is it moral to imagine sex with a whore, a dog, a tree, or a child?

When you create this image of a beautiful woman in your head, an image you find arousing, are you consciously and specifically imagining that she is a capitialist and an egoist and so forth?

If you were to see a stripper or someone who posed nude or a porn star and they had a terrific body and you were inclinded to use the image of that person in your head, would it not be possible to strip away thoughts of that real person's values and recreate them in your head?

I have said that your fantasies will reflect your values but do they explicity and specifically reflect all of your values during fantasy?

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When you create this image of a beautiful woman in your head, an image you find arousing, are you consciously and specifically imagining that she is a capitialist and an egoist and so forth?

No; the goals, politics, history, and so forth are implied and here unimportant. What is important is that when imagining sex, it has the same goal as real sex: to celebrate both mind and body. When you are making love with a woman in real life, you aren't just celebrating her body. When recreating that reality in your mind, the same thing applies.

If you were to see a stripper or someone who posed nude or a porn star and they had a terrific body and you were inclinded to use the image of that person in your head, would it not be possible to strip away thoughts of that real person's values and recreate them in your head?

I'm not clear on the context so I can't answer your question. If you're talking about physically interacting with someone posing in front of you, that's not fantasy - it's reality, and your mind cannot change reality by superimposing a different consciousness on her. If on the other hand you're talking about looking at porn, I think I've made it clear that this would be impossible with hard core porn but possible with non-nihilistic porn.

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