the tortured one Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 http://mises.org/fullstory.aspx?Id=1737 It's depressing, really. How long will it be before Atlas Shrugged and sends Europe back to the stoneage it worships? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Royce Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 http://mises.org/fullstory.aspx?Id=1737 It's depressing, really. How long will it be before Atlas Shrugged and sends Europe back to the stoneage it worships? The worst thing about this is that Microsoft is trying to comply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristopherSchlegel Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 I am a fan of MS products. They especially do not deserve this. Side note...Has anyone noticed that the MS anti-trust cases have a new twist? Historically, you could be tried for anti-trust if you were: price gouging, price undercutting, or price fixing. To my knowledge MS is the first to be tried essentially for giving away products for free (IE in the US; Media Player in Europe). And, yes, it is quite unfortunate they are complying/capitulating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDC Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Perhaps they could call it "Windows XP: Sanction of the Victim version" The sad thing is, Europe used to be great. I'm sure if the European governments just got out of the way of the Europeans, they could be again. But then again, the governments are probably just a product of being too close to the origin of Kantianism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Royce Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 And the Europeans themselves are not? From where do European government officials come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyedison Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 The sad thing is, Europe used to be great. When? (possible leaving out Britain during the Industrial Revolution) As far as I remember, the "ideals" of slavery and serfdom and anti-Americanism have always existed in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elle Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 (edited) The sad thing is, Europe used to be great. I'm sure if the European governments just got out of the way of the Europeans, they could be again. But then again, the governments are probably just a product of being too close to the origin of Kantianism. Hmm... the governments are made up of Europeans, that might be the problem. edit: Europe used to be great because Europeans used to hold up great values. in one form or another (Renaissance, Enlightenment, Industrial Revolution). I realize there are individual Euros who have great values now (as there are people around the world) but the majority is mired in Kantian thought and socialism. Edited February 9, 2005 by Elle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Capitalist Posted February 9, 2005 Report Share Posted February 9, 2005 Europeans were glorious at one point in time, the Italians with art and commerce, the French and British with philosophy and great revolutions political theory, the Germans with science, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRoberts Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 When? (possible leaving out Britain during the Industrial Revolution) As far as I remember, the "ideals" of slavery and serfdom and anti-Americanism have always existed in Europe. Oh my... I really do suggest a survey course of European History if it is offered in your high school. If not, then there are wonderful books out there that you can read-one of which is called "A History of Modern Europe since the Renaissance" by Dr. John Merriman. America had to come from somewhere. We didn't just spring up...we are the child of Europe (or the triumph of what Europe was striving for). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDC Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 When? (possible leaving out Britain during the Industrial Revolution) As far as I remember, the "ideals" of slavery and serfdom and anti-Americanism have always existed in Europe. Just read the book "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" to see what France used to be like when they had the same renaissance mentality as the U.S. Also England stood alone against Hitler for a long time, and see capmag.com for the story of how they fought slavery. Don't underestimate the Euros, they will make a comeback sooner or later... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Royce Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Just read the book "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" to see what France used to be like when they had the same renaissance mentality as the U.S. Also England stood alone against Hitler for a long time, and see capmag.com for the story of how they fought slavery. Don't underestimate the Euros, they will make a comeback sooner or later... Also, don't overestimate the present Euros, they could become Nazis again sooner or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristopherSchlegel Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 In a related series of events... I work as an IT Tech at a college. In yesterdays mail I received a bizzarre little document with the following title: "Microsoft Tennessee Class Action Settlement" It goes on to state: "If you resided in TN & purchased certain MS OSs or MS Office products from a company other than MS between '95 & '02, you may be eligible to file a claim." Under "What is this lawsuit about?" it reads: "A lawsuit filed in TN claims that MS violated TN's antiturst & unfair competition laws & thereby overcharged consumers for certain of its OSs, & Office products. Microsoft does not admit it did anything wrong & contends that it developed & sold high quality & innovative software at fair & reasonable prices. In settling this action, MS has agreed to provide vouchers to the TN users of its software." Further on under "Why is there a settlement?": "The Court did not decide in favor of the Plantiffs or MS. Instead, both sides agreed to a settlement. In this way Plantiffs & MS avoid the uncertainty & cost of a trial & those included in the Class will get an opportunity to receive vouchers on a claims-made basis." Apparently the total amount to be awarded to those that "apply for vouchers" in TN will be $64 million. In the event that not enough people ask for that grand total the remainder will be given to the TN Commissioner of Education & used "by TN schools". It is extremely discouraging that such blatant PARASITES can get away with such activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 I got the same thing yesterday by mail. It really pissed me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elle Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 You know what really pisses me off is when I get those little $8 settlement checks and I never even filed suit. I rip them up and throw them away - angrily - but it's ridiculous and it makes me mad that my name is even listed as a recipient of that garabage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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