West Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 I have my own ethics that I have to put in on other peoples' ethics. I will not hesitate to put my ethics on someone else, because I put it so ruthlessly to myself. We have the responsibility to say, this is the way it's to be done. And we're helping people. http://defamer.com/344987/the-tom-cruise-i...want-you-to-see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cilphex Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 The video is 9 and a half minutes long, but he really doesn't say anything at all. He talks a lot about "doing something," and "really helping for the first time," without saying what needs to be done or how anyone should go about doing it. I don't really know much about Scientology besides the fact that once you reach the upper levels, you learn about how humans are possessed by little ghost things that came out of a volcano after they were punished by some God from another planet (or something), but this makes it seem like whatever ethical facade they hide and expand behind is equally as shallow. "We are the authorities on the mind." That was classic. How do people buy in to this trash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammon Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 The video is 9 and a half minutes long, but he really doesn't say anything at all. He talks a lot about "doing something," and "really helping for the first time," without saying what needs to be done or how anyone should go about doing it. I don't really know much about Scientology besides the fact that once you reach the upper levels, you learn about how humans are possessed by little ghost things that came out of a volcano after they were punished by some God from another planet (or something), but this makes it seem like whatever ethical facade they hide and expand behind is equally as shallow. "We are the authorities on the mind." That was classic. How do people buy in to this trash? I honestly have no real answer for that. I just don't get it. Especially with all the fiascos Scientologists pull off you'd think people would get the clue. I'd quit any religion after they asked me for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aequalsa Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 I honestly have no real answer for that. I just don't get it. Especially with all the fiascos Scientologists pull off you'd think people would get the clue. I'd quit any religion after they asked me for money. They all ask you for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted January 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Bye the way, can anyone explain to me what an 'org' is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWaters Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Scientology has really built up a stronghold in Clearwater, Florida. I wonder how far they are away from getting a whacky U.S. Representative elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thales Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 I couldn't follow any of what he said, except if there's an emergency, Tom "knows" what to do. Did he stay at a Holiday Inn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athena glaukopis Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Yeah, sounds pretty cryptic. And there is too much information on Scientology on wikipedia to sort through to figure out what this shit is all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'kian Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Yeah, sounds pretty cryptic. And there is too much information on Scientology on wikipedia to sort through to figure out what this shit is all about. Read my thread on prayer. if it is religion, you ahve scant chance to make sense of it. It's not as if religion were rational. Scientology, or Dianetics, is systematic, at least as it deals with the outside world. It started as psychotherapy, but medical practices, including pshychology, are regulated. Religions are not. Therefore it switched to being a religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chops Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 Bye the way, can anyone explain to me what an 'org' is? I got the impression from the context that he was referring to "organizations." I could be completely wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benpercent Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but didn't the inventor of the religion himself publicly admit on television that Scientology was just about making money? If he did, then his followers are the greatest evaders I have ever heard of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athena glaukopis Posted January 16, 2008 Report Share Posted January 16, 2008 I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but didn't the inventor of the religion himself publicly admit on television that Scientology was just about making money? If he did, then his followers are the greatest evaders I have ever heard of. I've heard that too, but haven't bothered to do any follow-up. But if it's true: My thoughts exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammon Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 http://tomcruisetherapy.ytmnd.com/ http://tcruiseko.ytmnd.com/ http://oprahkillstom.ytmnd.com/ What more can we say mates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'kian Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but didn't the inventor of the religion himself publicly admit on television that Scientology was just about making money? If he did, then his followers are the greatest evaders I have ever heard of. I seriously doubt it. One well-known fact about Scientology is the lenghts the church goes to protect its reputation. An awful lot of journalists have been sued for libel, defamation and such for pieces they've published which were critical of Scientology or even L. Ron Hubbard. Indeed, Hubbard started the practice of suing over any public slight. Such a man would hardly go on the air and admit it's all a fraud. But if you know of a video of him saying just that, I'd love to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanG Posted January 17, 2008 Report Share Posted January 17, 2008 The story is that Hubbard made a bet with Sci-Fi writer Joe Haldeman at a convention that he (Hubbard) could invent a new religion and never have to work again. Apparently the dates don't match up though, Hubbard was already involved with Scientology (mid 1950's) before he met Haldeman (mid 1960's). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clawg Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) I had to laugh at that joke from peoplescube.com: To avoid scorn and ridicule, Tom Cruise converts to Islam Edited February 5, 2008 by Clawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benpercent Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I seriously doubt it. But if you know of a video of him saying just that, I'd love to see it. I couldn't find the video, but I found, though from one of the members of "Anonymous" (the Chans), the phrase I was thinking of: "Make money. Make more money. Make other people produce so as to make more money". - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 9 March 1972, MS OEC 384. <I cannot verify the reference> To me this quote should be deadly to the campaign. I know it is true then: Scientologists are the greatest evaders I have ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles White Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Thought this video was rather interesting and suitable for the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammon Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Thought this video was rather interesting and suitable for the topic. This my friends, is why Scientology must die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benpercent Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Thought this video was rather interesting and suitable for the topic. I am amazed. Utterly amazed. If members of the church paid attention to this, then this would be called shooting yourself in the foot with a cannon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles White Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 (edited) I especially love the quote about "Buying a little piece of blue sky" and "The only way you can control people is to lie to them." Edited February 24, 2008 by Miles White Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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