organon1973 Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 (BTW, in two weeks expect: ancientathensonline.com. No site is up at present.) Reason is the faculty of men to establish Truth by means of Thought. In relation to logic. To start: Deduction. Deduction is the application of a general truth to a particular instance. For example: All cities are big. Paris is a city. Therefore: Paris is big. Make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organon1973 Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Better: "Reason is the faculty men possess by which they can establish Truth by means of Thought." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A is A Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) So? This is quite basic stuff, hardly the place to begin. But one example doesn't demonstrate a general statement. And why only 'men'? How and why do you get to start with deduction? Your example doesn't demonstrate your "general truth." Not all cities are big. Edited August 4, 2013 by A is A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organon1973 Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 There are cities that are not big? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organon1973 Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 And why, in a thread titled "Reason and Logic" (!), is _basic stuff_ not the place to begin! (!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A is A Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Big, but what standard? Population, area? Compared to what? Rome NY has a population of about 33,000. NYC has 7 million. What is big? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A is A Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 NYC has an area of 830 KM^2. LA has an area of 12,562 KM^2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organon1973 Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 The word is contextual, [insert name here]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A is A Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) The word is contextual, [insert name here]. Well, if you're starting a thread, then provide the context. Edited August 4, 2013 by A is A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organon1973 Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Who cares?! (A prior version of this including an expletive was modified prior to submission. Pardon.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organon1973 Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 The "Who cares?!" is an relation to the specification of the mathematical parameters of the areas of two large cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organon1973 Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 in* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JASKN Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 So far your thread reads as nonsense. Why did you start this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grames Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I find the strange capitalization of Truth and Thought to be ominous. Those are not proper nouns, but you seem to want to treat them as if you were referring to the platonic ideal versions of truth and thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vik Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Are you suggesting that we need a concept of "truth" before we can form a concept of "reason"? What antecedent knowledge do we need before we can have a concept of logic? I know that at some point I must have distinguished conclusion from perception. I think that distinction would have been necessary because of a concept of error. But I'm not sure what else was needed. (BTW, in two weeks expect: ancientathensonline.com. No site is up at present.) Reason is the faculty of men to establish Truth by means of Thought. In relation to logic. To start: Deduction. Deduction is the application of a general truth to a particular instance. For example: All cities are big. Paris is a city. Therefore: Paris is big. Make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reidy Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) Most of this thread confuses the accuracy of an argument's premises with the technical correctness of its deduction. The second is typically logic's business; the first typically is not. Edited August 4, 2013 by Reidy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organon1973 Posted August 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 This board claims to be concerned with Ayn Rand's Objectivism, a philosophy (not by any means complete) of Reason. I've now registered my own board relating to the philosophy. Don't even _think_ of registering there unless you're willing to think: ancientathensonline.com. Expect it within a month. Be well. :;! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A is A Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 This board claims to be concerned with Ayn Rand's Objectivism, a philosophy (not by any means complete) of Reason. I've now registered my own board relating to the philosophy. Don't even _think_ of registering there unless you're willing to think: ancientathensonline.com. Expect it within a month. Be well. :;! Hmmm. You start a thread that makes no sense, then assert that Objectivism is in an incomplete philosophy of "Reason". Then imply that we don't think here, but we can join your board if we are willing to think. Not to mention that you don't address or respond to comments by other posters. One has to wonder about Truth, Thought, and Reason. I don't think very much more discussion is required here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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