EC Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 Earth can support a population 1000 times the size of the current population easily, not sure why that is being discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadmjones Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, monart said: Is Bacon here expressing an aspect of what Rand calls "the metaphysical vs the man-made"? I was responding to the idea of moving mountains lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monart Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 On 3/7/2024 at 8:25 AM, monart said: Yes, why leave the comforts of Earth for a spartan life in hostile space? Not many would, if that is the only choice. But another option is to live in space in earth-like habitats, with sunshine and birds, with music and merriment, with all the wonderful pleasures, conveniences, and security available here on Earth. Indeed, the earth-like habitat may be a politically autonomous, Objectivist free society, free from the failures, tyranny, and misery of altruists and collectivists. In either case, whether one wants to live in space or on Earth, it's still a starship one builds and lives in, from the perspective described in the essay, "Project Starship". A politically-autonomous, militarily defendable, economically prosperous, culturally nourishing, free Objectivist society -- a Galt’s Gulch Atlantis constituted on the absolute protection of individual rights based on rational egoism, and capable of protecting its citizens from violators, domestic and foreign -- this ideal country: What's more likely to happen, happen sooner, and be more viable? 1. On Earth, the United States (and/or Canada) ratifies a fundamental amendment to its Constitution and revises/repeals its political/legal system based on the absolute protection of individual rights. (Or, in a region of US/CAN becoming so?) 2. On Earth, but on the ocean, on a self-sustaining artificial island (located possibly somewhere in the Doldrums?). 3. On another planet, in this or another solar system. 4. In orbital space, in an artificial, earth-like, self-sustaining satellite-habitat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monart Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 20 hours ago, tadmjones said: I was responding to the idea of moving mountains lol. Is building orbital island habitats in space like moving mountains? Yes, the construction would be preceded by moving mountains, the mountainous asteroids from which come the needed materials (preceded by materials from the Moon). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monart Posted March 9 Author Report Share Posted March 9 23 hours ago, EC said: Earth can support a population 1000 times the size of the current population easily, not sure why that is being discussed. The doom-criers of "overpopulation" are still going strong (moving among the carbon-neutral crowd) and rebuttals of nonsense are always valuable. Boydstun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monart Posted March 11 Author Report Share Posted March 11 Note the etymologically, mutually related synonyms of "starship", "astronaut", "photon", and "light-being" or "being of light". For those interested in further reading and reflection on aspects of "Project Starship", one philosophic, the other poetic, here are: Starship Astronaut as Rational Egoist Starship Being Light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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