Solid_Choke Posted August 16, 2007 Report Share Posted August 16, 2007 I actually just watched the movie today and I have to say it was amazing (keep in mind I am a Classical Liberal and not an Objectivist). I have to wonder if many of you have seen ANY movies from this time period. The acting seemed very on par keeping the era in mind. It is not the style we are used to today but it was spectacular for when it came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Andrew Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Set your DVRs, the Fountainhead will be playing on Turner Classic Movies at 7:30AM January 20th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utabintarbo Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Set your DVRs, the Fountainhead will be playing on Turner Classic Movies at 7:30AM January 20th. I wonder if the choice of that particular day was a calculated decision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Andrew Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I wonder if the choice of that particular day was a calculated decision? Why so? What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake_Ellison Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Why so? What am I missing? We're changing presidents that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodge'sPodges Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Why so? What am I missing?I"m not sure what is meant. Could be referring to the inauguration. Four days late though to match the title of the Rand play "Night Of January 16th". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Andrew Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I"m not sure what is meant. Could be referring to the inauguration. Four days late though to match the title of the Rand play "Night Of January 16th". Snaps, I forgot about that. I think my mind was thinking Bush would still be President for a few more years with Obama as the President-elect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydstun Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) It was Barbara Stanwyck who persuaded Warner producer Henry Blanke to read The Fountainhead and open the door for getting the book made into a movie. An account of how the film got made, particularly in respect of its script, is given in Jeff Britting’s “Adapting The Fountainhead to Film” (2007). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Greene County Examiner-Recorder Catskill, New York July 21, 1949 Among the movie advertisements on page 8, was this one: July 26, 27, 28 MONUMENTAL BEST-SELLER! TOWERING SCREEN TRIUMPH! GARY COOPER —IN— THE FOUNTAINHEAD —CO-STARRING— Patricia ~ Raymond NEAL ~ MASSEY A Review (also p. 8) Bringing to the screen one of the most absorbing and tempestuous stories of the past decade, Warner Bros. will present at the Community Tuesday their film version of “The Fountainhead,” adapted from the famed Ayn Rand novel which swept the country as a best-seller a few years ago. Starring Gary Cooper as Roark, the architect, and Patricia Neal as Dominique, the picture has been eagerly awaited by motion picture fans who recognize the production as one of the most ambitious on the Warner Bros. schedule of the past year. “The Fountainhead” is the thrilling story of a young architect who fights out against complacency and tradition in behalf of his own work in which he believes so strongly. This theme is set against a lush background of beautiful buildings and interiors, and the film, having been given Warner Bros.’ most lavish production treatment, promises something as pictorially thrilling as any picture of the year. Gary Cooper has been cast in one of the strongest roles of his great film career. Opposite him, playing the brilliant and beautiful newspaperwoman is Pat Neal, the Broadway star who soared to screen stardom after her debut in “John Loves Mary” and is here given a brilliant dramatic opportunity to display her talents in the tumultuous romance of Roark and Dominique. Also in the cast are Raymond Massey as the newspaper publisher, Robert Douglas, and Kent Smith. King Vidor directed the picture. NYT Review Box Office I was unable to attend first-run showings of the film in 1949 as I was incapacitated on account of infancy. Edited September 7, 2011 by Boydstun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebor Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) I was unable to attend first-run showings of the film in 1949 as I was incapacitated on account of infancy. I'm sorry, but that is no excuse. Perhaps I should add that I'm kidding. Edited September 7, 2011 by Trebor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapereAude Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 On a not completely unrelated topic: Perhaps the best thing about TF movie is the comments section on Netflix: "Based upon what was one of the 20th century's most popular books, The Fountainhead as film serves as the perfect illustration essentially of Ayn Rand's preferred method for defecating all over the Bible and everything for which its moral code stands. Delightful to watch as it was to read, and terrifically acted by Cooper (handpicked by Rand herself), this thrill ride will have you on the edge of your seat, explaining directly Rand's faults for you through--at times hilarious--over-identification with the capitalist fetish and its logically selfish conclusions. At work throughout Rand's praxis, especially so The Fountainhead, is a distinction between "prime movers" and "second handers," taking to extremes Kant's opposition between ethical autonomy and heteronomy. Those pathetic second handers are looking endlessly for recognition outside themselves, their self-confidence and assurance depending on the qualities others see in them, while the prime mover is fully reconciled with himself, relying on his own will and creativity, selfish in the sense that his satisfaction does not depend on the recognition from/of others or on sacrificing himself, his innermost drives, for the benefit of others. The prime mover is innocent, delivered from the fear of the other, and for that reason without hatred even for his worst enemies. Roark for instance, the "prime mover" in The Fountainhead, when asked by his opponent Toohey what he thinks of him, states simply that he doesn't." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JASKN Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 Why is he using points that detract from his argument, as a way to support it? Or, what is his argument? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SapereAude Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 I know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydstun Posted September 15, 2011 Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 . Follow-up on #33 – I see that at the end of his chapter "The Fountainhead Reviews" (2007), Michael Berliner included a section on reviews of the 1949 film. That section is on pages 83–84, where one will find samples from a number of newspaper and magazine reviews. #34 – LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydstun Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) In his recent movie Clear History the character played by Larry David takes inspiration from Howard Roark’s dynamite of Cortlandt in The Fountainhead movie, along the David way to hilarity and happy ending. Edited September 5, 2013 by Boydstun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repairman Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 I have The Fountainhead in my DVD collection, and it is a convenient devise for discussion among the those unfamiliar with Ayn Rand and Objectivism. I happen to have a great fondness for films of this era. My opinion of this film is, of course, one of approval. However, the viewer ought to be familiar with this classic era of noir film, and it is noir fiction, (especially the suggested sexual violence, flogging, and the demise of Gail Wynand.) Raymond Massey was the only character perfectly cast for his part, although Patricia Neal was excellent. Gary Cooper was a bit too old for his part, (as was Jimmy Stewart for his parts in The Spirit of Saint Louis and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance), but that was typical of those days. (I would have loved to have seen Vincent Price cast as Toohey.) Rand was supposedly thrilled to have her big screen idol, Cooper, cast in the part; so Roark's age was one of those elements that deviated from the book. I can't expect to have friends read the whole book, although some have, at my urging. The critical points made through Roark's example were intact, and that makes it worth watching again, and sharing with a friend. The virtue of individualism is portrayed as Rand insisted it must be in the medium of film, which is an art form created collectively. It holds up much better than the current attempts to portray Atlas Shrugged on film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reidy Posted September 5, 2013 Report Share Posted September 5, 2013 According to BB's biography, Greta Garbo was briefly a prospect. She was in her 40s at the time (b. 1905) and would also have been older than Dominique in the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydstun Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 . Interview comments from Patricia Neal on Rand's ideas in The Fountainhead are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBqD_urS1MA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yes Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 On 12/12/2006 at 4:47 AM, chicoflaco said: How can a screenplay possibly cover such a lengthy tome as The Fountainhead?! Ayn Rand did cover all the "valuable" content -- what was missing for you then? I totally disagree! One of the most inspiring things about this book was how it contrasted Peter Keating's early "success" with Howard Roark's struggles. It was indeed Roark's early struggles that led him to the quarry in the first place. In my opinion, that was quite an omission not to at least spend the first 20 minutes of this film to tell us how Roark wound up in the quarry in the first place. Roark would overcome his struggles because of his individuality and strength of character and ultimately succeed. Having read the book, which, for me was, for the greater part, greatly inspiring, then seeing the movie, this flaw became all the more apparent to me. The movie was not lacking in good direction and some fine performances- with the exception of Gary Cooper, whose casting was a misstep (although Rand insisted upon casting Cooper). Gary Cooper came off as wooden, for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocompromise Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 I thought Cooper did a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydstun Posted January 30, 2019 Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 NC, I liked Neal and Massey the best. But linked below is a scene in which Cooper as Roark is landing the book true (though he has the drawback of age). There is a Cooper scene I especially liked (no link) in which Roark says to Keating that men able to do something are his kind of man. Cooper seemed to really get that. Neal and Massey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCMarRkVRk4 Neal and Cooper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC5yxqKedTk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boydstun Posted March 16, 2021 Report Share Posted March 16, 2021 I see that Zack Snyder still thinks that the time is not right for making his film of The Fountainhead. He had deferred it a few years ago because he had been advised it would get a better reception during a Democratic administration (cf. bump in Rand book sales during the Obama years). But now he seems to think the political climate has become all-around hopeless. This man is in the business of making films that gross many millions of dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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