Shrugging Atlas Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 I love to listen radio talk shows, not all but a select few. I was wondering if anyone else is a listener. I think a few hosts demonstrate some, I repeat, some Objectivist ideas. They would in my opinion be just two: Micheal Savage and Jay Severine ( he is on an FM talk station in Boston 96.9, but it is only a matter of before he goes national). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wrath Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Neal Boortz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Nate Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 I used to listen to Rush Limbaugh & Sean Hannity a lot, but now it depends on my drive schedule and whether or not I'm in the mood. I enjoy listening to Curtis (right) and Kuby (left) on WABC77. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenriz Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 I know that Larry Elder is an admirer of Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman. He is also a "small l" libertarian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ariana Binetta Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Howard Stern is, more or less, a libertarian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 I know that Larry Elder is an admirer of Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman. He is also a "small l" libertarian. He actually calls himself a "Republitarian" to distance himself from the Libertarians a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakes Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Howard Stern might have a general contempt for the government and for rules like most libertarians, but I can't imagine what he has in common with Objectivists. I agree much more with Shrugging Atlas' pick: Michael Savage. I don't listen to him regularly, but his interview with Leonard Peikoff was excellent and showed a surprising philosophical understanding (what other prominent radio host ever mentioned the word "subjectivism"?), an understanding you'll seek and never find within the ranks of libertine libertarians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softwareNerd Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 I used to listen to whatever slighly "right wing" host was on my local station -- simply because I can mostly stand to listen to them. However, I mostly listen to NPR now. With NPR, during my half-hour commute they will usually have some topic that will make me think. I didn't find that so with any talk-radio -- with most of the latter, you soon can predict what they're going to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaloNoble6 Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 It is immoral to listen to NPR. (Should be on that list of mine...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DArcMatter Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 When I am in a mood to see what my tolerance for pain is, I have a game that I like to play. It's called: "Identify the Logical Fallacy Used by the Radio Talk Show Host". Bill O'Reilly's show is what inspired me to think up this game, since I had such strong objections to what he says 4/5ths of the time. The least painful show is the Phil Hendrie show, since he brings on 'guests' who he uses as a foil to let unsuspecting callers drive home a point relevant to a recent news topic. What he does is not so much to tell why he is right as it shows that he is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaloNoble6 Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Why do you have the derivative in your signature? Care to join the "Great Physicists" trivia game the second Saturday from now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolboxnj Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 I listen to John Batchlor on the ABC radio network. He's an outstanding journalist who's major interests are the WoT, Iraq, Israel and other interesting topics. It's all all-guest show, which means no callers - all the guests have great knowledge of their area of expertise like John Loftus (counter-terrorism work). He defines himself as a "liberal Republican", but I find I have much in common with him. Also there is Michael Savage whom I think is the most entertaining and engaging figure on talk radio. He does share some common ground with O'ists (Peikoff interview) and is very consistant unlike other hosts. He's not simply a mouthpiece for the conservative right or for Bush and this makes him stand out IMHO. Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh are terrible hosts in my opinion. Hannity is a rubber-stamp Bushite who crawls to the lowest intellectual level to appeal to his mostly ignorant audience (judging from the callers). Limbaugh has his moments, but I can't hold interest throughout a 3 hour show. There's also Mike and the Maddog and Steve Sommers for sports here in NY I enjoy listening to Imus in the Morning, but there are too many damn commericals so I usually just "channel surf" between the AM news stations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softwareNerd Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 It is immoral to listen to NPR. (Should be on that list of mine...) After posting that, I thought to myself: if anyone says that, I'm not going to be able to resist a "cookie cutter" remark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolboxnj Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Oh my, that's priceless softwareNerd, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Nate Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 I know that Larry Elder is an admirer of Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman. He is also a "small l" libertarian. I used to listen to him when he was on in NY, too. He was good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studentofobjectivism Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 I know that Larry Elder is an admirer of Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman. He is also a "small l" libertarian. I didn't know him. I watch his TV show sometimes late at night after I get home from work. I did see him have a debate defending the businessman's right to hire whoever he wants and to set the terms of the employment. Remember the case where the employer didn't want any of his employees to smoke? He defended himself well against some liberal senator from Michigan. The audience booed him though. I listen to Michael Savage when I can though. I won't listen to any other broadcaster. I find his outbreaks at callers hilarious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxiii Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Here in Michigan there used to be a talk show host called Mark Scott. He was heavy into Ayn Rand and each show was hardcore. Unfortunatly he died about three months ago. William Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softwareNerd Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Here in Michigan there used to be a talk show host called Mark Scott. We have Mr. Scott's grandson as a member here. Isn't that cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softwareNerd Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 I just checked out Michael Savage on the web (because I'd forgotten why I disliked him). His theme is "our borders, our language, and our traditional culture". It doesn't get more non-essential than that does it? Couldn't Hitler have had the same motto? If yes, and if Savage is very different, then why does he not use his essential ideas as his banner? Can any Savage fans tell me (from his shows) how you would sum up his fundamental philosophy. As for Stern being anti-establishment: ofcourse he is. He's pretty much anti-anything. A person doesn't get closer to personifying nihilism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolboxnj Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Can any Savage fans tell me (from his shows) how you would sum up his fundamental philosophy. He's a self-described "Nationalist". Savage is the conservative that's "almost" there. What I mean by that is we'll give 15 mintues of great commentary about the War on Terror.. but then he'll say we need a draft in order to shape young people. His religious/faith based positions are more against the multi-culturalists than are "pro-religion". But, this "borders, language, culture" isn't Hitlereque in my opinion and I think we can relate to them too. Liberalism and nationalism are related and we need to curb the illegal immigration problem (my solution is dismantling the welfare state and increasing legal immigration); we should speak a common language despite of the calls from the racists that every language, every culture is equal; Americans share a common Nature: the Liberal (philosophically) who walks the fine line between freedom and equality, who works harder than any other in the Western world and is home to the nation that most values the mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaloNoble6 Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 We should all speak a common language, by law? I'd say that it's rational to speak the most common language of a country, but it shouldn't be mandatory. If a person can be productive and live peacefully speaking Klingon, that in no way violates the rights of anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softwareNerd Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Illegal Immigration has been discussed elsewhere,and I don't want to veer this thread off topic. However, if illegal immigration is an important issue to Savage, he's out for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Nate Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 We should all speak a common language, by law? I'd say that it's rational to speak the most common language of a country, but it shouldn't be mandatory. If a person can be productive and live peacefully speaking Klingon, that in no way violates the rights of anyone. But the government shouldn't accomodate foreign languages. We need a single language to write legislation in. Considering our COnstitution is English, our language should be too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaloNoble6 Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 What does "our language should be too" mean? Sure the government needs to establish an official language for law and such, but that doesn't mean that its citizens need to learn this language by law. And what precisely do you mean by "accommodating other languages." Based on his anti-immigration stance, I would guess that Savage's "one language only" view is really just dislike of foreign culture as such, i.e., mindlessness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Nate Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 What does "our language should be too" mean? Exactly what you said: an official language for law. Which includes an official language for ballot boxes, and as long as we have public property, road sides and education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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