Mammon Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Simple question. I'll start with this -- Who is better than Barack Obama? I'm going to be purely Socratic in this thread. I'm usually always Socratic but, no one's caught on to that so I'm going to come out and say it this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thales Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) I am. A better question might be "Who isn't?" Edited March 2, 2009 by Thales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fountainhead777 Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 In a practical manner any non-democrat because he would stalemate congress and keep them from doing as much. And you are only socratic when someone opposes obama. you have yet to be socratic in response to criticism of other politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grames Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 I am. Damn you. Stole my answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Simple question. I'll start with this -- Who is better than Barack Obama? I'm going to be purely Socratic in this thread. I'm usually always Socratic but, no one's caught on to that so I'm going to come out and say it this time.This being a forum dedicated to Objectivism, how about we use the Rand Method and cut through the bull. Why do you support this man, mammon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake_Ellison Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Giuliani would've been a little better, in my opinion. He did a pretty good job as both US Attorney and Mayor of NYC, compared to any other NY Mayor before or after him. Also, Thales (both of 'em, especially the old one), Grames and myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 My superiority to the Messiah has been confounded by the fact that I am not an American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 My superiority to the Messiah has been confounded by the fact that I am not an American. I don't know, last time I looked at a map, Canada was in the Americas. Mammon has a man crush on Obama. Chis Matthews is jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordr Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Better at what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'kian Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Better at what? And better for whom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammon Posted March 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 I am. What makes you better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammon Posted March 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) In a practical manner any non-democrat because he would stalemate congress and keep them from doing as much. So, being a non-Democrat makes someone better then Obama for the office of President (which I think you're implying because of the stalemate comment)? Is that the only criteria? Does any non-Democrat qualify? you have yet to be socratic in response to criticism of other politicians. What criticisms of other politicians? Edited March 2, 2009 by Mammon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01503 Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) What makes you better? Acting on principles, especially ones that are consistent with the ideal of laissez-faire capitalism. By "I am", seen multiple times in the thread, just think "Objectivist" or "Laissez-Faire Capitalist". EDIT: Grammar Edited March 2, 2009 by NickS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammon Posted March 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 This being a forum dedicated to Objectivism, how about we use the Rand Method and cut through the bull. Why do you support this man, mammon? Does the Rand Method imply making BS and baseless accusations and expecting someone to defend them? Why do you spend 75% of your disposable income on chocolate sundaes, fletch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utabintarbo Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Does the Rand Method imply making BS and baseless accusations and expecting someone to defend them? Why do you spend 75% of your disposable income on chocolate sundaes, fletch? Well, you would think it would imply that if an on-topic question is asked, that it should be met with an answer, and not equivocations and ad hominem. Not that anybody really expected you to answer.... On-topic: Given the level of Democrat control in Congress, I would submit that any strongly right-wing Republican would be better, so as to establish gridlock. The economy needs the government to step back and let things fall where they may. This would be politically unpopular, and could probably only happen in a divided government (thereby allowing one side to blame the other). And yes, I realize this is strongly antithetical to Objectivist reasoning on contemporary US politics. But I think it is defensible nonetheless, in so far as economic issues are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 I don't know, last time I looked at a map, Canada was in the Americas. True and some day you will all gleefully bow to your Northern opressors liberators... but not today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funandlearning Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Inane topic, oughtta be scrapped by the mods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thales Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 What makes you better? I value individual rights and would stand up for them on principle. I would work to implement this principle consistently through all of government. Further, I would be honest and up front about my position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ers Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 I submit that Billy Mays is better than Obama because his facial hair is awesome. Also, Mighty Putty probably holds stronger than Obama's principles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Does the Rand Method imply making BS and baseless accusations and expecting someone to defend them? Why do you spend 75% of your disposable income on chocolate sundaes, fletch? Given your previous posts on the subject, I dont know that assuming you support Obama could be classified as 'baseless.' As for your original question: Who is better than Barack Obama? I suppose if your goal was to expand the size of government, socialize medicine, balloon the debt, punish achievement, reward failure, redistribute wealth, and extinguish the remaining embers of smokestack-capitalism, then there might well be no one better than Barack Obama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01503 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 I suppose if your goal was to expand the size of government, socialize medicine, balloon the debt, punish achievement, reward failure, redistribute wealth, and extinguish the remaining embers of smokestack-capitalism, then there might well be no one better than Barack Obama. Gasp! Saying that makes you a radical right-winger! Go listen to Rush, you dittohead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rearden_Steel Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) How about: He doesn’t interfere with the market nor make substantial loans he can't pay. Edited March 3, 2009 by Rearden_Steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01503 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) Now if we had a million of those and a million years, we could write a new best-selling book of all time to bring us out of debt! Edited March 3, 2009 by NickS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordr Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 There's some fodder for a new NY Post cartoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utabintarbo Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 There's some fodder for a new NY Post cartoon. Too late. We are already living that cartoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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